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  • Alex Haley’s “Roots” to be removed from Knox County Schools libraries

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  • you sound incredibly up your own ass, and have been since the beginning. I feel like your whole purpose of being here is just to be smug and try and flex your le reddit muscle. I'm absolutely sure you're unpleasant to be around, if not for the attitude but the smell.

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  • so, you haven't read anything I've said. Just say that, man.

    I literally have said that parent should decide. Almost everytime. Parents should decide, kids shoudn't be able to just freely obtain those books. Those books don't belong in a school library for kids. They can be in the regular library where parents can decide and allow what is apporpriate for their kid. I have never said "I decide what kids read", I said "the public decides what kids can read in school, and parents decide what kids can read at home"

    I don't know how many more times you need to read this until you understand. Like I said, I think you are just being willfully obtuse because you saw the arrow, turned off your brain and decided to be contrarian.

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  • Honestly, I think most of ya'll are just bandwagoning. I think most of ya'll are just cowards following the arrow to inform your opinions instead of thinking critically about what is being written. You made up your decision about how to respond not on what I've said, but on the direction of the arrow.

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  • it's literally not "because I (a single person) say so" it's because "THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE READERS SAY SO"..... what are you not understanding about this?

    Every review about the book and the series includes discusions about the "spice" of the book. The fanbase clamours about the sex scenes in the book as a main topic. The book is listed in the genre of adult fantasy..... It's not "me" just making up a label... IT'S A FUCKING LABEL THE BOOK HAS FOR ITSELF.

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  • I think a lot of the commenters here didn't have access to adult materials as kids and they're real salty about it.

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  • You keep intentionally conflating library with school library interchangably as though they are the same thing. It's so slimy and you do it everytime.

    me: "I don't think kids should be able to buy wine, but if their parents let them drink at home, that's their decision"

    you: "OMG you think kids shouldn't be allowed to be allowed to drink!!! you want them to die of dehydration1!111"

    me: drinking and drinking alcohol are not the same, and they can drink alcohol, but only if their parents allow it.....

    you: RAAAAAA kids should be able to drink whatever they want!!!!! you want to kill kids!!!!

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  • because those books are primarily written to be erotic fantasy! What are you talking about? Literally all the reviews about the "Court of Thorns" series is readers talking about the romance and spice. That's the focus of the book. It's not some high brow educational read. The frequent and commonly understood focus of the book is the sexy scenes and romances of the characters... that's the book. The purpose of the narrative is to get readers to engage with the characters and sexual fanatasy.....

    LOTR doesn't exists to be a series about violence and gore... it happens as a consequence of larger parts of the narrative, not the focus. Outside of those few instances where it exists, it isn't glorified for pages on end to entice and excite the reader. It serves a literary purpose of progressing the larger story....

    You HAVE to be making this argument in only the most extreme of bad faith. Like, willfully misrepresenting the narrative purpose of the books.

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  • are you trying to imply that because LOTR has violence, that it is a book primarily about killing and gore? What in the false equivalency bs is this?

    LOTR also Hobbits smoking pipeweed. Is it also a book primarily about drug use and addiction? Is Harry Potter a sports series because quidditch?

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  • I felt my original post was reasonable. Topics of educational importance should not be restricted. But books that are primarily adult in nature and serve no educational purpose should be restricted.

    To better illustrate the difference, a book about gender and queer studies should NOT be restricted, because it's education, even if the topic is frequently sexual in nature... however a pornographic yaoi manga isn't exactly high lit and probably doesn't serve some educational purpose... so probably shouldn't be accessible to kids without explicit parental consent and knowledge.

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  • they're not catering to my kid.... that's not what I said either. It's a school public library, it caters to the public, kids specifically. And the public decides what appropriate for kids by consensus. I don't know how much more bad faith you can read that as.....

    And I didn't say every library in the world.... I've said multiple times that regular libraries can and should have that content and that parents can decide individually if they're comfortable with letting their kids consume it. No issues with that, let parents, parent. But a SCHOOL library, which is tailored to children, should have material that the public feels is appropriate for children. Simple as.

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  • you want to have a school library stocked full of furry porn..... but you think I'm unhinged......

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  • okay.

    glad you, who doesn't know anything about my kid, has such strong opinions on what they're capable of handling. You, who has no idea what they've been through or experienced, yet you seem to think YOU know what's best for them.

    Yea... cool.

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  • no, where did I ever say that? You're just making up some le reddit level gotcha.

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  • Seems pretty sane to me too, man. I don't know. A lot of people seem to really want kids to read porn without any restrictions... at a school library.

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  • I didn't realize how many Lemmings are really passionate about letting kids read erotica. It's kinda creepy.

    Getting downvoted to hell for saying "hey, maybe a school library for kids is not the place for sexually explicit material. Maybe parents should make that decision".

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  • yup, I'm the real problem here. Advocating that kids aren't given liberty to freely consume explicitly sexual material. That some topics should be left to parents to decide. What a monster.

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  • the fuck off? You've already proven you don't give a fuck about kids anyways.

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  • I don't give a fuck what you think. Gooooo fuck yourself right back.

    Your child (that you don't have) is not my child. And my child's problems are not the same as every other childs. That's how things work.

    That you think, somehow, your parenting approach should be universal, or widely adopted, without considering that, i dunno, every child's needs are different... shows you don't know shit about parenting or kids. You seem to think that children are a monolith, that they all behave and respond the same way to things, and can all be trusted to do the same thing with the same materials.

    That's not how kids are. Some kids have diagnosed, alarming and problematic issues with mental health and violence. And maybe, letting them just consume material unsupervised and without and controls is not in their best interest, or the interests and safety of other around them. But you dont seem to get that. You want to live in this world where every kid is perfect, and totally reasonable, mature, healthy and understanding of morality. If you're one of the lucky ones to have a kid like this, maybe you'd have a different view on just letting them consume whatever material they want.

    Kids go on a shooting spree and everyone goes "why didn't the parents do anything????".... "how did this kid get access to all this violent material???" And here I am, advocating that maybe parents should parent, and not let their kids just do whatever they want, get invovled with whatever they want.... Maybe parents, who know their kids, should have some say in exactly what kinds of materials their kid has access too.

    and ya'lll are like "UMMMM actually, trying to restrict any kid is evil and bad, and you should let them do whatever they want". Jesusfuck.

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  • Actually I need to circle back around to how fucking dumb this comment is.

    If they can tell that wizards and elves are fantasy, they could see how porn is a fantasy, too

    Except kids aren't going to someday encounter wizards and elves and magic shit in real life. That won't happen to them, ever, it's actual fantasy, not real.

    They will (probably) someday get involved sexually with someone.

    And if their formative experience and education on the matter heavily revolves around "fantasy" scenarios (ala porn/smut), and not, "the real world" then they're going to have a very fucked idea what that means. Because kids will have no other context or experience by which to judge and examine the material. From their perspective, that's just how sexual relations work, or could work or should. So you're setting up kids with these massively unrealistic and sometimes violent and dangerous expectations of sex.

    They won't encounter a hobbit ever, not matter how many times they read LOTR. But they will encounter a woman, who will say "no" and it won't mean "secretly she wants it"