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  • you're the one arguing to show kids explicit sex scenes man. Dunno why you think I'm the weird one here. I've been trying to tell you to fuckoff for awhile now. Thankyou for finally doing so.

  • kid above certain age

    the age is 18.

    That's the certain age we, as a public society, have decided that they are free to decide for themselves about what's appropriate for them. Because they are adults. Fullstop.

    You want to argue lowering the age where a child is considered an adult?.... is that where you want to go? I mean, you have been arguing in favor of showing porn to kids... so, maybe it is. Maybe it's in your interest that kids are considered "mature" at a younger age.

  • ohmyfuckinggod. REVERSE that line of thought. It's YOUR opinion. YOU think it's fit for kids. So YOU can give them to YOUR kids.

    In a PUBLIC library, the PUBLIC (that's the average person) decides on the morality and topics that are approrpiate for children. It's the general average consensus. If you want to show them more YOU CAN, with YOUR KIDS. I'm not forcing you not to. The PUBLIC is saying "I dont' think kids should read erotic fantasy" and I, LIKE MOST PARENTS, agree with that sentiment.. I think the line should be drawn somewhere, and erotic explicit sex fantasy books is over that line, for me, and most people.

    I get it, you had a traumatic controlling childhood and now you wanna rebel against the system with "I would never tell my kids no, I'll let them do anything they want". But not everyone wants to raise their kids in the same fuckedup way as you.

  • whatever man, whatfucking ever. You think that adult fantasy with explicit sex scenes written for adults is good for kids. Whatfuckingever man. Holy fuck, you lost the plot if you're arguing for that. It's not even on the same level as HarryPotter/LOTR.

    Ey, why stop at erotic books. Just put porn on school computers. Do away with any internet controls. Put a shortcut on the school computer that goes to Pornhub, for education... don't wanna censor anything. Afterall, Pornhub and Wikipedia are basically just places to learn things. Same sames.

  • Cool, then you get to fuck up your kids however you want.

    What is so hard to understand about this concept?

    You want to just hand your kids porn, do that, that's your right. I don't give a fuck. But saying schools should give kids porn, objective pornographic material, is NOT your right. You're insane if you that's your view. Detached from the real world where you think that every kid can handle any content of material without issue.

  • no, obviously I've done literally nothing and not tried to get all my documents and paperwork in order for myself and family, with stepchildren.... and then after having not done any "figuring it out" I just came to the conclusion that it was a kafkaesque deluge of bureaucracy....... obviously I made my prior statement after only imagining the experience.....

  • Do you have kids?

  • No, the argument is, YOU can show YOUR CHILD this socalled "good porn", that's your kid, you're free to fuck them up however you want. But maybe, we don't all want to have fucked up kids just because you don't want to teach yours. Mabye, different people have different views. I know, crazy, it's like we're not all like you.

  • You're not a parent, obviously.

    Maybe some kids can read it. Or maybe, brainrot world of free information shows that, actually, kids aren't good at consuming adult material because they lack the context and understanding of consequences. Kids don't think long term, they don't comprehend abuse and trauma right. Letting kids read smut and bascially normalizing its content is going to leave them with a severely fucked up sense of sex and relationships because they have nothing else to base it on.

    Is sex in real life like it is in porn? No. And if you watched a lot of fucked up porn and then just tried to do that shit like you thought "thats how sex is, right?" you're going to have a bad time. And that's neverminding that A LOT of adult fantasy is "Consensual Non-Consent" (or adjacent, stalkery stuff). So that's going to be kids baseline for how to behave in a relationship. What else would they have to compare it to? Is that a good idea? Do you think that it's smart to normalize to a bunch of teen boys that it's normal to just force yourself on women, because actually, just like in the books, that's what they really want and like.....

    That's why kids don't need to be reading adult smut, they don't have the understanding to know that it's FANTASY.

  • What a completely devoid of thought thing to say. You're either a child or have the mind of one.

    The SCHOOL library is not the same place and context as a traditional public library. Regular public library you (presumably) go with your family who can supervise and make decisions on what material is appropriate for you, because they know you. As opposed to the SCHOOL library, which is largely unsupervised and would be impossible for educators to make individual decisions for each child, nor should they. I don't think teachers should be specifically limiting what kids can/can't learn. But as the school library IS a PUBLIC library, then the PUBLIC should have a say in what goes there for kids. And I think, generally, drawing the line at smut romance books is a pretty reasonable line to draw. There's no educational value in smut books, so they don't need to be in the educational library.....

    Lemme guess, your argument boils down to some kind "just let kids learn", boiling down all children into some kind of monolith of behavior. Forgetting that kids brains are not fully developed, that they lack impulse control, they don't have the experience or context to understand the consequences of their actions, and range wildly on levels a maturity even amongst those in the same grade level. What one kid can handle and respond to is going to be a trigger or elicit dangerous thoughts in another.

    So maybe, instead of just letting kids go willnilly at the school library unsupervised; consuming a bunch of adult material without understanding how they may react to that, we just don't stock obviously adult materials for them to grab. If it's really important that the child read the fantasy smut, then they can head on down the regular public library and get their parents (who presumably have a better understandig of what their child is capable of) to get it for them. And if your issue is about parents parenting... then you really are a child.

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  • Ah yes, "just move" man, I wonder why people didn't think of that? It's so simple!

    I get what you're saying, but it's the equivalent of telling a depressed person "have you tried being happy?".

  • Ya know what we need? Like a citizenship exchange program. It's so goddamn hard to get passports and work permits and move out internationally.

    What if, we could just tradsies with someone else from another country? Like, they wanna move to America.... I wanna gtfo, so they take my place and I take theirs? Everyone's happy.

  • Removing "Roots" is deplorable, it's an important time piece that captures the narrative and conditions of slavery in the United States......

    but.... removing "A Court of Thorns and Roses" from children's school libraries seems appropriate. It's an introductory book to a series of adult fantasy novels (yes, that kind of adult fantasy) that get progressively more "spicy" (see: pornographic) as the series continues. And it being the first book doesn't mean it's tame and gets worse in later books. It's a bit more explicit than "and then they held hand and fade to black". It's more like "and then the main character stradles a hairy man in an animal mask to climax"... yea, that book doesn't need to be in a school library.

    EDIT: ohshi, actually it's not just that they had to remove the first book, they had all of them removed.

    Which implies there was possibly a time when those books were in school libraries. Which is basically just smut at that point. We don't stock Playboys in the school library either.

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  • Oh sure, lemme just pull out all this disposable income and time I have for drinks, cab fair. Yea its definitely within budget to spend $50 round trip traveling + $50 buying rounds + $30 food + etc etc etc.

    For sure I can do that 3-4 times a week to be social. That's only like ~$500 a week. Or ya know what, maybe we just cut down to like twice a week, thats only $1k a month. Who cant afford that, right?

    Ya know what, maybe we just need to cut some costs. Hmmm cab fair is expensive, let's just drive! That's easier anyways, let's get drunk and drive a couple days a week because we cant afford to be responsible AND sociable...

    EDIT: actually, know what, I thought up another way to save some money. Lets save some money on food. We can't afford to be eating out all the time anyways. So yea, lets go out, drink on an empty stomach and drive home. Making some changes! Making friends! Going out and being social!

  • We got Massie too, kinda, only so far as the Epstein stuff. He'd otherwise watch you suffer and die from a preventable healthcare issue while big corpo buys up every last inch of country.

  • correct

    cast the deciding vote against the latest effort to limit President Donald Trump’s ability to attack Iran

    Parties (and/or the people) really need a way to recall member that runs on bad faith and switches after elections. From Sinema to Fetterman, there's always at least one fraud in the DNC.

  • profiting or not, thinking that costs haven't increased is either sheer stupidity or willful ignorance. Costs have increased, that's a fact. Doesn't matter if you're still profiting from it, things cost more.

  • 23% are stupid fucking idiots who shouldn't be allowed to breed.