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  • this was the first quote I thought of after having read Orwell's. I think they're both talking around the same thing here and I agree with them on it.

    Pacifism is a virtue for those who will be unaffected either way, or who benefit from the status quo. More to the point, it's convenient and easy to do nothing while feeling morally superior. And it's the position of people who look at the violence of the conflict and conclude that both sides are the same. Because they don't want to inconvenience themselves with having to look any deeper, learn anything more, or get involved in any manner. Afterall.... it doesn't affect them, so its easy to be a smug pacifist.

  • I can't pedal and write code at the same time. I can't focus and concentrate to read and understand things while trying to pedal, it's too distracting.

  • How's that corpo boot taste? If you lick it real hard maybe you'll get your own boots, but only if you lick real shiny.

  • They dont have children, they are a child.

  • Oh, got it, youre just a literal child. Of course you know everything.

  • A chromebook is an open invitation for all manner of distraction. The convenience is a double-edged sword. Having tablet like tech to work through also means it's just as easy to go do something else rather than the task at hand. In addition, the school chromebooks are controlled by the school admin, and not the parents, more on that later.

    With a book or some kind of physical medium, switching to a different thing means physically changing what you're doing and interaction with. With a chromebook it's as simple as opening up a new tab. And since the environment hasn't changed (still at the desk on a the chromebook) it's far too easy to lose track of time. They're not mode-switching, they're just switching tabs.

    This is disaster, especially for children who already lack impulse control; because they're children. Kind of one the main hallmarks of being a child. It's exponentially worse for neurodivergent children, especially those with ADHD. Class/Homework/Textbook is boring? Open up a tiktok/youtube/etc tab... hours are gone. HOURS.

    So the solution should be "well okay, the just block those things". But you can't... because you (as the parent) are not the chromebook admin, the school is. "Then you should just watch them", you're right, but ya know what would be better? If they weren't doing their work on a machine that was so easily for them be distacted. Schools shouldn't be giving children the tools to consume hours of brainrot, give the parents no controls in the mattter and just go "welp, figure it out".

    A child using paper and pencil has to physically change what they are doing and their focus. That's mode switching. And it provides a focus barrier helping kids remain on task or at the very least track time (like with a pomodoro timer).

  • Absolutely.

  • Softcore porn is still porn.

    You're just desensitized due to the modern internet and years of hard-core video pornography. What used to be hard-core porn 20 years ago is the standard average faire on every site today. And what used to be considered porn is "tasteful vanilla" now.

    Playboy has always been a porn magazine. You just dont get off to it because you watch too much hard-core porn on the hub.

    So, anyways, I dont feel bad being dismissed by a massive gooner.

  • literally was never the argument I was making... but okay. So long traveler.

  • my dude..... 18 is the age we as a society generally agree on. That's why it's 18. We for the most part deem that's when the average kid is mature enough to handle things and make decisions on their own without any oversight..... That's just where we drew the line at.....

    You are allowed to disagree. If you feel uncomfortable being compared to the other kinds of people who also disagree.... that's your moral problem to find peace with. Not mine.

  • lol, you can't get any more le reddit, than misusing a logical fallacy in attempt to look smart.

    That isn't a slippery slope... slippery slope is, "if kids read spicy books, they'll have unrealistic ideas about sex, and if htey have unrealistic ideas about sex then they'll all become furries, and if they're all furries then everyone will be gay and no one will have kids ever again..."

    Taking your point and giving an example where it doesn't hold isn't a fallacy on my part. It's a logical inconsistency that you're demonstrating. That you're too dumb to understand that isn't my fault. If I were you, I would just shut it, quit while you're behind and whatnot.

  • so.... you want to argue that the age of maturity should be lower? You can argue that.... sure, just saying though, it definitely puts you in leagues with a lot of other types that want to lower the age of maturity for all sorts of other reasons. You wanting to stand toe-to-toe with them on that?

    You about to wax poetic about how "some kids are real mature for their age?"

  • that's absolutely a "you" opinion.

    What's explicit to you vs explicit to most people is very different. And that's cool, if you think it's fine and your kid can handle it, you do you boo. Most people, like the overwhelming majority of readers of that book would define it as erotic and pornographic.

    But thinking "bah, that's not explicit, I know what's explicit for everyone" is just peak entitlement. You don't get the make the rules for everyone else. I don't get to make the rules. That's the point, it's a public school, it has what the public agrees on. And the public, mostly agrees that those books are not appropriate for children. Full stop.

  • So your argument is

    "even though you're the parent and responsible for the wellbeing and education of your child, you're not allowed to set any kind of restrictions or boundaries. You must let your child do whatever they want, consume whatever they want.... because they want to, and they will try to do it anyways so just let them"

    that's your position? Just... don't parent at all?

  • I struggle to see how violence should be considered acceptable but sex shouldn’t be.

    I think that's a fair distinction to take issue with.

    I don't think that any one person should dictate what schools can or cannot have. It's a collaborative decision. And I think that maybe if society puts more emphasis on limiting children's exposure to violence like they do sexual content, that's how a cultural change happens. And that's all well and good. People having different views are fine, encouraged even. But getting mad that their fringe views aren't immediately adopted by the majority.... feels a lot like one person trying to dictate for the majority based on their personal views...

  • you're kidding right?.....

    an anatomy book is a educational guide and reference for understanding human biology. It's a textbook, explicitly and primarily written for learning... that's quite a large step away from a fantasy erotica novel...... just because they're both books with dicks in them does not mean they're both appropriate for kids.

    Intention matters. Unless you're an idiot, I guess?

  • I swear you're just being willfully pedantic.....

    Obviously I mean the public decides what books the school has for kids to read... not that you can't give your kid a book and then they read it at school. Because that's you, as a parent, making a decision about what your kid can read, which is what I've been saying. You just wanted to twist it like you're doing now, for whatever reason. I don't know, maybe you lack excitement in your life.

  • Obviously school libraries - especially at the K-6 level - should have different guidelines than public libraries.

    I mean, that's literally what I've been arguing the whole time... but nope... people are like "you have to let kids read erotica!!! Stopping schools from giving smut to kids is wrong!!! parents who set boundaries are bad parents!!!!"

  • I remember watching "Roots" in school, in 8th grade as part of our teacher's material for the year. We did reports about it. Levar Burton acted his ass off for that film. Same teacher had us watch "Beloved" too. I grew up in a very rural area too.