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  • There’s a similar fun fact about the ‘60s Addams Family house interior being mostly pink. It worked perfectly well for a show filmed in black and white, but obviously no one would argue that that’s how Gomez and Morticia actually decorated their home.

    But for the purposes of a meme, it’s fine.

  • Oh, the wastes! The magnificent wastes! When I was a lad I knew a man who visited the wastes and brought back such beautiful things! Real salt from the dry riverbeds, pieces of rubber that would burn for hours and give us such marvellous dreams! One day I'll earn enough to take you to the wastes myself, young one. One day.

  • Possibly. Most people's first thought when they heard "Batman" at the time was probably still the '60s series, but Dark Knight Returns had gotten a bit of press already pushing back on that. But really, Burton's sensibilities just work with the character. Maybe it's whoever convinced him to give the job a chance we have to thank.

  • Eeh. Most of the complaints I see in this thread about Trek 2009 would apply as well to TWoK if people were being even handed. It's a pew pew action film. There are no deep philosophical questions being tackled. It's not utopian -- Starfleet is portrayed as a straight forward space navy that works with real scientists only begrudgingly.

    There's kick ass high drama and a decent character study of an ageing Kirk, but the character work on Kirk and Spock in 2009 wasn't all that bad, either.

  • Burton's Batman films are top tier, though. If I get a great director with a solid vision for the character/story, I don't care at all if they were a fan before hand or not.

  • Indeed. Nicolas Meyer was the same, and most fans seem to love his contributions to the franchise. Being a newcomer isn’t a bad thing. Sometimes a fresh perspective can be a great thing.

    Not to say I love Abrams’ work, but in the end he did more harm to Star Wars than to Trek, and by all accounts he’s a life long Star Wars fan.

  • First time I ever saw that put forward was in this fun follow up to Trials and Tribble-Ations:

  • Well, they do…

  • Gotta make sure those torpedoes are are armed with C-4 warheads, though.

  • Mid visor at best; doesn’t even shoot laser beams.

  • Evil

    <insert any female character name>

    : aggressively bisexual

  • Don't listen to the naysayers. I've been a trekkie since the '90s, and I very much enjoy Disco. It's not perfect (season 2 was especially messy), but most of the criticisms I hear against it make no sense to me and/or could easily apply to other beloved instalments in the franchise.

  • I would not say TNG was particularly more subtle. A gendered alien from a genderless race being put through conversion therapy is about as subtle as Let That Be Your Last Battlefield was. A planet of literal Native Americans in space being forcibly moved by Picard, who finds out he is the actual descendent of a 17th century coloniser, is somehow even less subtle. The Measure of a Man would have worked without explicitly bringing up slavery, but they made sure that it was brought up, and that it was a black woman who did it. Star Trek has pretty much always shouted its message for the people in the back row.

  • Season 3 is the most polished, but also chokes with hyper nostalgic pandering. Sadly every season has major issues for me.

  • “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy”

    “Lots of minorities, huh?”

    “Now I didn’t say that…”

  • Yeah, you’ve gotta go with “risk is our business” if you really want to get results.

  • Buffer time is definitely the episode where I stopped doubting they knew how to handle trek.

    Interesting, I almost gave up on the show after the buffer time episode. Watching a Starfleet captain create a timesheet-obsessed toxic work environment made it seem like the show would be too much "The Office in space".

    I'm glad I gave it a little more time, though, it definitely picks up for me after the first half-season or so.

  • Halloween: Dracula (1992), Addams Family + Values, Mr. Boogedy + Bride of Boogedy, Hocus Pocus

    Christmas: Batman Returns, Die Hard, A Christmas Story, Christmas Vacation, Mickey’s Christmas Carol

  • TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world

    The Real Thing