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  • Shocking that someone with a major that requires lots of writing would have similarities with model that simply copies the writing style with the largest sample size.

    My first statement was sarcasm.

    Who is the subject you are referring to?

    I... am assuming it is me, because you replied to my comment.

    If you were not referring to me... why did you reply to this comment of mine?

    Did you mean to reply to a different comment I made, where I went into more detail about writing structures and LLM output?

    But also, I am the only person that's explicitly mentioned my own major... in this entire thread.

    ???

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    Since most people write more in university than the rest of their career there's simply more writing with that style available. Since that's all available through journals or more insidious sources it's likely training fodder for AIs. Therefore someone's writing being misinterpreted for AI likely just means they've used some academic style.

    Oh, ok, you are misinformed.

    No, no, LLMs are fed 99.9% of training data from all kinds of random internet comments from the entire internet, reddit, intstagram, facebook, tiktok, everyone's blog they forgot they even had 6 years ago, stackoverflow, truth social, twitter, youtube comments, wikipedia, etc etc.

    They thus learn to emulate the average writing style of the average internet user, by default, albeit with some safety rails put on them manually.

    They absolutely do not write in the style of academic journals, unless you specifically prompt them to write in such a manner, or ask them for precise details about data (or use terms and phrases) that essentialy only exists in academic journals.

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    So... yeah, that's why I assumed you were referencing me... because your sarcastic comment doesn't make any sense as a sarcastic comment, because the thing its being sarcastic about is built on a false premise.

    Also, because you specifically mentioned a writing style of a particular kind of major the OP doesn't mention this concept, and as best I can tell, neither does anyone else in this whole thread.

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    Also also... even if your idea that LLMs write in the style of academic writings... the only actual LLM generated text in this whole thread... reads like a high school assignment essay... it doesn't at all read like something that would be published in an academic, peer reviewed journal, nor even really like much writing that would get better than a 2.5ish out of 4.0 as assignments in a Uni... it reads like middle to high schooler writing.

    So your 'sarcasm' also doesn't make any sense in that way either, because that is another, seperate but also present false premise that the sarcasm would have to derive from to... make sense...

    Unless you are referring to me, and what I just wrote, in the comment you replied to.

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    Well, I apologize for going off on you when you didn't mean to insult me, but hopefully you can at least understand why I interpreted what you said as a personal attack.

    Yeah, I missed the Queen reference being more directly related to the actual OP, I am at this point more used to celebrities and Zoomers using Queen as basically to mean a person who thinks very, very highly of themselves, has a considerable sense of entitlement and is feminine presenting.

    And I was so worked up at this point I interpreted everything else as an attack.

    (Ahem. Yep. Autism confirmed lol.)

    So, yeah, I appreciate the explanation, I again apologize for blowing up on you.I can see now that you absolutely did not mean anything as a criticism of memor my own writing.

    Your initial statement was, and still is quite confusing to me, but I appreciate that you took the time to explain what you were trying to say, and hopefully you now understand a bit of my thought process as you kindly explained your own to me.

    Somewhat ironically, my intial confused interpretation of what you said you did manage to evoke a more catty, venomous and snarky response out of me, so perhaps that's me being a bit of the Queen I wrongfully thought you wanted me to be, lol.

  • Oh no, I failed a purity test by not being inclusive enough, but also it simultaneously was not edgy nor controversial enough at the same time!

    I am autistic. I am speaking both from personal experience and also personally knowing a bunch of other autists I went to university with.

    So uh, misfire on the inclusivity purity test there, unless you're gonna call me a self hating autist, in which case, ok lol.

    You're really gonna tell the autistic guy that he sounds like a robot, a computer model of text generation, you know kind of a massively rude thing to do to an autist, who gets to hear that dehumanizing shit their whole life... you're gonna tell me that and then also critique me for not being inclusive enough, to autistic people.

    Amazing.

    This doesn't 'need' Queen, it is meant to be my authentic personal opinion, I do not identify as or with Queen, or use Queen mannerisms or phrasings. Took me a long time to learn that anyone that demands I mask for them isn't someone worth much of my time.

    Jumping from doing ... some incredibly vague, unspecified, but nonetheless structural writing critique... directly into a totally subjective, personal preferences critique of the content of the writing, seemingly without even realizing you've done this...

    Pretty much means you either aren't well versed in English, or you're intentionally conflating the two in bad faith.

    I dare you to find any ChatGPT or similar LLM that naturally outputs written content that simply has as many ... as I arguably overuse, consistently writes compound sentences with as many clauses as I use routinely, not to mention suggests intonation the way I do with bold italics.

    Uh, um, in conclusion, in this essay I have shown that you have no clue what you're talking about.

    EDIT: Oh no, did HR send you?

  • (*) Donakd J. Trump.

    Or, if you go by his Press Secretary...

    President Chump.

    She keeps saying Trump as Chump, in official press conferences.

  • Yes, that is correct, this is the basic 5 paragraph small essay structure:

    Intro paragraph - I am going to say blah blah.

    Body paragraphs (usually 3, can be more) - each particular point of blah blah, explained in a self contained manner, that doesn't reference or build upon anything in the other body paragraphs.

    Conclusion paragraph - I said blah blah.

    This is a writing style typically taught to middle schoolers, 20 years ago, before we spent 20 years passing every failing student onto the next grade becauase otherwise the school will shut down.

    It is meant to be an introduction to the concept of writing in a longer form than just answering a single question with basically one paragraph.

    It is not meant to be good, compelling, moving or engaging writing... it is meant to be the bridge between basic and intermediate levels of literacy, to give young humans more practice with stringing more sentences together.

    Writing in this manner almost always can be boiled down to maybe a couple of sentences, basically you could just rewrite the conclusion with a bit more detail, and there ya go.

  • Dear god I hope you aren't a teacher, I was writing better than this in middle school.

  • The emdash is a dead giveaway, but its mostly the high school level writing style.

    It is astonishingly uncreative and simplistic with sentence structure, it just directly regurgitates the points from its prompt it was specifically directed to address, there's no clever or compelling phrasing or larger metaphor, there's no personality or expressiveness, willingness to say something maybe a bit edgy or controversial, very neutered and bland writing style... and there's no consecutive introduction of, then expanding on or synthesis of concepts, which are continually used after being explained and synthesized, progressively... instead, all the references are just mentioned, explained, addressed, discarded, onto the next one, like so many bullet points that need to be fluffed up to hit a word count.

    Finally... did you intentionally prompt it to emulate the 'in this essay i will...' 'self contained, non referential body paragraphs' 'in conclusion, here's a few sentences that could have been the entire essay' ... did you intetionally tell it to mimic this extremely basic writing style?

    Or did it just... do all of that on its own, like the mean average of five million highschool sophomore book reports?

  • Throw marketing and HR majors in there with business majors as the triumvirate of just literally evil and useless people, and I'm on board.

    I say this as a person with an Econ degree, and another Poli Sci degree, that I got simultaneously.

    Bach Sci, Bach Arts, respectively.

    Not quite as 'artistic' as something like music or visual artistry of some kind, but I can say that a.BA in Poli Sci involves a lot of learning how to be the... persuasive kind of a creative writer.

    So yeah, I'm kind of a hybrid multi-class build, so just like when you do that in DnD, 90% of people are somewhere between annoyed by or confused by this, all the way up to just outright hating you for 'being a try-hard' or 'having both a broad and deep skillset, and significant general understanding of relevant context in many areas'.

    Ok lol, snark aside...

    We Econ people are not all evil, in fact most of us fucking despise business majors, as business is what you switch your Econ major to if you're too stupid to actually understand advanced math, modelling, statistical analysis, as well as actual long term business strategy and non myopic market analysis... as well as usually at least some coding proficiency in something like R or at least Python libs geared toward data crunching.

    But somehow these idiot assholes end up being our bosses and we usually end up being their subordinate data analysts of some kind, basically because they master the arcane power of corpospeak, aka, professional gaslighting.

    Likewise, accountants, actuaries?

    Those are actual real degrees, you have to memorize an utterly astounding amount of essentially arbitrary laws and regulations, and if you go full actuary, some of the most complex statistics on earth, in some cases literally more complex and mind bending than what many theoretical physicists have to learn.

    Anyway, most data oriented nerds are at least mildly autistic and realize they are generally not so good with people skills, nor the visually artistic kind of creativity... but we are generally self-aware of this, and realize that other people with other kinds of intelligences are needed if we want our data and analysis to actually be listened to.

    Finally: HR and Marketing majors are all narcissistic sociopaths who are also too stupid to complete their psychology degrees, which they really only ever pursued to become more skilled sociopaths.

    ... Uh there, oops, I may have just written at least part of OP's essay.

    EDIT: Ok, apparently this may be worth clarifying due to the presence of some ChatGPT diarrhea in this thread, but uh, the above words were all produced spontaneously by an all natural, organic, genuine human being, in an astoundingly more energy efficient and non exploitative manner, that didn't require the violation of the privacy, consent, and also basically IP rights of every human that has ever existed.

  • I... I know what it literally is.

    I am just baffled that anyone would actually need this explained to them, but at the same time, I completely understand that most Americans are not capable of doing basic research and analysis on their own, and are propgandized all to hell.

    Like... this was all easily discernible that this is what this particular tax cut would do, back in 2017.

    Don't get me wrong, its important to have this on the record... but its the exact same bullshit from Trump's first term, just now they want it to be a 23% deduction instead of 20%.

    EDIT: Maybe I am 'biased' as to how obvious this is, in that I have an Econ degree, and also a memory span that extends backwards in time far enough to remember a whole bunch of other people with Econ and Accounting degrees saying this is what this tax cut would do, on national television, in articles, being cited by online commentators, etc.... back when this was being argued over 8 years ago.

  • I mean, carrier pigeons sd cards or thumb drives being moved by motorbike is actually a reasonable way to move a lot of data, in one chunk, fairly fast, in poor infrastructure environments, given how insanely space dense storage memory is now... but yeah thats not gonna work for lots of little bits of data moving to many places, very fast.

    Thats what 4G, 5G, other radio frequencies that work well enough for data transfer are for.

    Like, I am posting this from a phone that is WiFi connected to a 5G base station tower, because my building is too shit to even have a working cable line.

    120 mbs down, not blazing fast, but more than enough to stream 720p/1080p 60fps video, latency is actually low enough to stand a chance at an online competetive game.

    FCC regulations not withstanding... you could concievably just jerry rig this thing to directly talk with other same base stations, instead of or as well as the tower its actually connected to.

    If there aren't already people out there somewhere making rough analogues to a 5G internet base station, that can talk to each other as basically dedicated local mesh routers... out of rasberry pi's or something... I'd be shocked.

    Fuck, you could blast a HAM or CB radio with 56k dialup protocol, and some kind of extra redundancy/signal noise processor.

    Again, laws against this notwithstanding... thats absolutely possible to do.

  • buzzer noise

    Sat links are a way to avoid that... if you assume they are not cooperative with the government doing the shutdown.

    Which is basically a very stupid assumption in a whole lot of scenarios.

    Actual alternative:

    Build a community meshnet of your own transceiver devices, and/or use I2P.

    It'd be some work to setup, and probably be pretty slow, but this would at least enable local communication, and if you're using I2P, it'd also be secure and private.

    At the moment, Starlink in Iran can only do local sms text messages, that's it, no web access, no voicecalls, no signal nor whatsapp nor telegram.

    And your phone has to already be carrier unlocked.

    Or, you have to have an actual Starlink DishyMcDishFace reciever or w/e ... which are contraband in Iran. As in, do not pass go, go directly to jail, potentially do not ever come out.

    Also, Elon can just rail a line of ketamine and suddenly change his mind for no apparent reason.

    Whereas a local meshnet does not have a single point of failure, and actually supports many more kinds of internet traffic, and Elon isn't reading all your SMS and metadata... as well it being possible to hook into any kind of potential tunnel to the broader internet.

  • Wait, was there ever any doubt about this?

    Oh right, I forgot, half of the US has replaced their brains with 'fell for it again' awards they've been shoving up their noses and into their ears for the last 10 years... so you have to explain basic concepts to them over and over again for there to be any chance of them sinking in.

  • President Donald Trump said on Friday that farmers may be able to keep employing undocumented migrant workers without fearing enforcement raids under a system in which they would take "responsibility" for them.

    It was not immediately clear how the system would work, and is the latest of several changes of tune regarding the matter.

    IE, Trump has concepts of a plan.

    Not anywhere near as concrete as the headline suggests.

    Trump suggested last week that migrants working in industries like farming would be exempted from enforcement raids given the disproportionate impact that enforcement operations could have in the economy and the industry.

    After the statement, ICE officials reportedly told staff in an internal email to largely lay off raids and arrests in the agricultural, hotel and restaurant industries. However, the pause did not last long. By Sunday, Trump had publicly reversed his previously proposed policy entirely, ordering agents via a Truth Social post to deliver what he called the "single largest Mass Deportation Program in History"— focusing particularly on America's largest cities, almost all being run by Democrats.

    In other words, Trump himself has mutually inconsistent, diametrically opposed 'policy' goals, and is too demented/senile, fundamentally stupid, and tempermental, to actually formulate a coherent 'policy'.

    This is all contradictory nonsense, and Trump's subordinates are basically just interpreting whatever vague nonsense Trump is saying in whatever way they want.

    It is the same as his tariff bullshit.

    Tariffs are good because they'll bring in revenue and balance the defecit!

    Oh wait, they're crashing the economy? Hah, idiot, that was a negotiating tactic, now we'll negotiate!

    Oh wait, negotiations failed? Hah, idiot, that was a bluff, what will actually happen is tariffs will make domestic manufacturing boom!

    Wait what? Domestic manufacturing relies on either final assembly of imported goods, or just rebadging/relabeling and reselling imported goods... or actually paying for and building new factories first?

    Uh, uh, uh, uh.... Bomb Iran!

    ...

    All Trump knows how to do is scam and grift people by saying what he thinks they want to hear, and also self-aggrandizing.

    Now he is absurdly out of his depth, and is floundering and flipflopping like a fish out of water.

    The reality is that federal agents of the regime will do whatever the fuck they want, justify it however the fuck they want, and threaten to arrest or shoot whoever the fuck they want.

  • That is a well written answer, thank you!

  • Much like how it is very easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over the homeless, it is also easy to pass laws and ordinances that fuck over prisoners.

    The US Constitutional + Ammendments explicitly allows slavery as punishment for a crime you've been convicted of.

    The Supreme Court has now repeatedly just thrown all prior existing legal case precedent out the window and just made such nakedly hypocritical rulings that its fair to say they are a completely biased and arbitrary institution.

    The rule of law in the US is dead, is a farsical joke.

    Some state will just pass a law that says uh hey, if you're a prisoner in a facility in our state, and the state has some kind of extraordinary need, we can force you into involuntary labor.

    Then other states will copy this once it passes one state's court, then in 6 months-ish it'll get to the Supreme Court who will say yep, checks out, carry on, and then every other red state and half the blue states will do it as well.

    I am not 100% sure this will happen, but it is very, very plausible. 95% sure something like this will happen within 5 to 10 years, possibly less.

    Also... its illegal to be homeless now, and the economy is crashing. Get foreclosed on, can't pay rent, end up in the streets, living in your car?

    Yep, why not crack down on that like ICE is cracking down on migrants, now you're convicted of being homeless, the punishment is a few years of forced labor.

  • Yes, it would 100% be large corpos that more or less run and own many farms that same way large landlords run 10s or 100s or 1000s of apartments / rental homes.

    Sorry, I had thought this was so obvious it didn't need to be directly stated, but yeah, it's not a bad idea to be more explicit and more clear.

  • Its truly incredible.

    Their response will just be to fold, to literally sell the farm, and also at the same time never even be cognizant of the fact that they got exactly what they voted for, that Trump repeatedly said he was going to do exactly this, that lefties screamed about Project 2025 and the resounding response was basically 'pff, he's just bluffing,' and then making up a fan fiction version of what Dear Leader will actually do.

    They're just gonna revert back to the 'no one wants to work' mantra untill we just literally put our incarcerated prisoners to work in the fields, going full circle all the way back to slavery.

    These idiots didn't even realize how dependant they were on so many massive subsidy programs untill they poofed out of existence, again, 100% in line with Trump's platform.

    Has any nation in history fucking autolobotomized as hard and as fast as we have?

    Literally the world's sole super power 20/30 years ago, and in a single generation we have destroyed ourselves in almost every way possible, short of just nuking ourselves.

  • While that quote alone, and the NIF's results are very impressive and promising...

    The beginning of that wiki page says you actually have to hit more like a Q of 5 before you get something that can power its own heat managment and other operating systems as well, to stand a chance at being sustainable.

    The other big, missing piece of context is:

    The NIF facility's impressive results come from shooting about 200 lasers at a tiny capsule, which heats it so fast it becomes a plasma and undergoes fusion, and then the energy released is captured.

    But... this is not like a toroidal reactor, that, if it got high enough Q, could just keep running and producing energy in net.

    This is more like firing an artillery canon that needs to be carefully and manually reloaded.

    It is not a continuous, on going process... the position of the capsule must be perfectly aligned to where all the lasers convergently aim at, and its a burst, with a reload time.

    That and the capsule (technically a 'hohlraum') itself is... making one is a massively intensive and complex process.

    The actual fusion fuel part of the pellet has to be encased in a diamond, and then gold, and it has to be like nano scale perfect.

  • To give you a minor update, you're gonna need to add 'nuke' and 'nuclear' to your blocklist... as well as 'housing crash', 'housing values' and 'prices' and 'debt' and 'default'.

    Add in those words and you'll remain blissfully ignorant for at least another couple months.

  • If it is within a one hour commute of a place with a decent number of jobs, then that could be a viable residence.

    Not entirely sure what you precisely mean by 'guest house of a villa', but uh, its pretty common practice just generally around the country to rent out an ADU or guest house just as a residence.

    You'll get no sympathy from me as an entitled landlord while millions are homeless and over a hundred million can barely afford rent.

    People like you will walk past a homeless person and sigh, and wonder why somebody else isn't doing more to help them... seemingly unaware or not caring that you are part of the problem.

    I'm sure your kitty kat is wonderful, but please don't use it to put a happy face on your exploitation of the poor.

  • Bad kitty, bad!

    A good kitty would stop AirBnb'ing their place and either do something more useful with it, or just put it on the normal rent/home sale market to help local rent and home prices go down.

    Don't let the fuzzy innocent kawaii lull you into excusing their not immediately directly predatory and exploitative behavior.