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  • people tried to say "this is fine" because those people knew the importance of stability.

    I saw that dynamic too but I think part of how we got to this point is that we broke the trust of the public by insisting "this is fine" when they could tell it wasn't, and the insecure condescension we got from a lot of our leaders didn't help matters

    I will say that there are some people way too eager to burn everything down right now and the crazier things get the more important it is that we all try to speak carefully, but OTOH we also absolutely need to throw some things into history's dustbin and the longer we wait to do so the worse this is gonna get

  • I actually agree, I don't think I'll live to see those better days because I think we're still staring down another century or so of dumb shit, but I think our whole species is eventually going to hit a rock bottom, learn some very painful lessons, and come out better for it. Also, I think by that point the idea of nation states might be kind of antiquated.

  • It's CNN we're dealing with here, so of course the headline is misleading. Most of the article and most of their polling questions are actually about views of the two major parties which are in general basically worse than they ever have been.

  • I think popularity remains relevant regardless of how much democratic backsliding happens. Whether popular will expresses itself through an election or some other means people will find an outlet.

  • I think throughout most of human history most people have tried really hard to believe "this is fine" regardless of what's going on and periods of time that we see as having massive unrest involved like 50% of the population openly saying "this sucks" and maybe 20-25% saying "this sucks and I'm willing to do something about it"

  • That was possible specifically because Trump tried to use the national guard, here I don't think we know what force he's going to try to use,

  • The only way the French Revolution got going was when a few of their wealthy nobles got so fed up with how stupid the king was being that they joined sides with the peasants, and I feel like at least in the short term we might need a similar dynamic here

  • Oh bullshit, they voted for the guy who was not Joe Biden because they were grouchy about groceries and sick of neolib excuses. If RuPaul had a believable and consistent message about kicking out Biden loyalist dead weight from the administration and, say, launching a program that paired increased aid funding for local governments and schools with more aggressive investigations and prosecutions of price gouging he could have dunked on Trump.

  • I think I disagree because there are just so many ridiculous roadblocks to ballot access for third parties in different states, plus even if you can overcome that and win you'll run into a bunch of institutional roadblocks if you don't caucus with a "major" party (e.g. if you want a seat on one of those bipartisan committees that hash out 90% of the discussion on a lot of boring-but-important stuff before it even gets to the legislature), but I can definitely see where you're coming from

  • If Carr was going after Cruz's critics there's no way he'd have made this statement

  • Yeah, this author is a dangerous idiot who absolutely should not be listened to about anything. He thinks a healthcare CEO getting shot is a problem but doesn't say anything about all the people who die from a lack of healthcare, calls out "countervailing pressure from within the Democratic party" but can't bring himself to say "Republicans are not reciprocating" because that would be too partisan or something, etc.

    It's this kind of cowardly condescending bullshit that has brought us to this point. These fucking shitstains who think they're leaders of our society (lawmakers, professors, business leaders, etc.) are fucking cowards who can't ever say something about the powerful people who are actually ruining everything without spending ten times as long complaining about average Americans. The problem isn't political polarization, it's that working people are being crushed and it's making us lose our minds.

  • Or destroying evidence of their involvement

  • Exactly. The biggest reason the United States is a wealthy place with the ability to pay for a good social safety net* isn't because we have the best system of government or regulations or people or any of that nonsense politicians and pundits will say, it's because we never had WWI and II play out across our territory and we haven't had to waste a bunch of money protecting ourselves from Canada or Mexico.

    Fuck a lot of what my country has done throughout history, but it's got a great foundation for building something that doesn't suck.

    *Of course it's definitely not doing this currently, but there's potential here

  • The fuck would they have?

    Lots of guns and zero humility or acceptance of their own mistakes. Also, Florida sinking into the ocean probably isn't going to make anyone in that territory more well behaved.

    Also also - it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the world to let this red state country come into existence, because when they aren't attacking us they'd probably be flinging shit at places like Mexico and Cuba. Also, you know their environmental policies would be a fucking disaster that the global climate really can't afford.

  • Usha Vance is the brilliant daughter of immigrant professionals, who was a clerk at the Supreme Court after studying at Yale and Cambridge universities

    Really? Brilliant? Being married to JD Vance and working for the Supreme Court are two bits of evidence pointing to her being stupid as hell and/or evil as hell, neither of which I'd describe as "brilliant."

  • No way the red state faction stays peaceful, as soon as they fuck something up they'll deflect blame on to the blue state faction and start doing airstrikes on us to distract

    e; Also, this red state faction could never ever ever be allowed to have a nuclear arsenal or we would all be very fucked, so that's another big hurdle to any kind of breakup plan