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  • On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big? (this is the paper that got her fired from Google)https://dl.acm.org/doi/epdf/10.1145/3442188.3445922

    A breakdown of the ideas in her paper from the MIT Technology Review:https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/12/04/1013294/google-ai-ethics-research-paper-forced-out-timnit-gebru/

    Other research from Gebru also led to Amazon putting a one year moratorium on selling facial recognition to police:https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/06/12/1003482/amazon-stopped-selling-police-face-recognition-fight/

    Gebru is also credited with creating the term TESCREAL which is a descriptive term of all the inter-related ideologies that drive the Nerd Reich:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL

    Anyway, she's been loud and open and mostly ignored, sadly. Understandably, she is saying this stuff very recently and the seeds of it all actually go very far back, so I would hope the Nerd Reich delves more into where the ideologies of TESCREAL arose and what they arose from.

  • The main thing I remember about Tim Cook was him making me realize how wealthy white cisgender gay men were hardly different from wealthy white cisgender straight men.

    The whole article has always been really worth a read, seeing how a techbro tried to turn a classic magazine into a tech company somehow. Besides that though, these passages always stuck out to me, because it feels deeply like these wealthy men exploit their sexuality to justify avoiding critique of their actions outside of their sexuality.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-collapse-new-republic

    In 2014, Hughes’s personal life and business life became increasingly intertwined, in ways that would coincide with changes at the magazine. His husband, Sean Eldridge, was running for Congress in a district that spanned the Catskills and the Hudson Valley, but his political campaign was not going the way he had hoped. Eldridge and Hughes had bought a two-million-dollar home in a district in which neither of them had ever lived, and Eldridge began investing in local businesses in what was widely seen as a transparent effort to influence the race.

    Ioffe dates the abrupt change in mood to late summer, shortly after Foer’s birthday party—the period when, as many current and former T.N.R. employees noted, Eldridge’s expensive campaign to win a congressional seat started looking hopeless. “We all liked him; he seemed to like us,” she told me. “Everything was going great. Then, in the summer, something snapped, and he started talking to me about money and how we’re losing money and he’s tired of it. And then he became just downright contemptuous and hostile toward us.”

    Hughes’s eroding relationship with the staff took on an ideological edge. On the morning that Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, announced that he was gay, MacGillis wrote a note to “the Plank,” T.N.R.’s internal e-mail listserv for writers and editors. “I see the celebration of his announcement, while entirely justifiable, as another sign of what’s happened to liberalism today, where rights/identity liberalism trumps economic liberalism,” he wrote. “This is, after all, a guy who embodies so much of what’s amiss in the age of inequality—pulling down $378 million in 2011 alone; Apple skirting taxes more brazenly than anyone else—yet those revelations have caused barely a stir.”

    Hughes responded to the note six minutes later: “I think those are valid issues, although Apple has acted squarely within the law,” he wrote. “The law itself is fucked up. But I don’t think you can underestimate the difficulty of his decision or how tone deaf that argument would be today.”

    The other editorial employees on the list were surprised by the response. It was an internal listserv for writers and editors, and the staffers didn’t realize that Hughes, who had relinquished his title as editor-in-chief when he installed Vidra, was on it. MacGillis responded by saying that he would hold off on writing, but added, “Just for the record, though, it is not so clear that Apple acted squarely within the law. The law’s a mess, but Apple pushed the bounds of it more than anyone.” He pasted text from a piece in the Times that questioned some of Apple’s practices.

  • I wasn't sure if the Nerd Reich was going to be telling me stuff I already knew. I kind of felt like Timnit Gebru called this all when she got shitcanned from Google... because they couldn't have her talking so openly about what their plans clearly are and were. To the people in charge at Google, it was a feature, not a bug, and they didn't need this woman (a brown African woman no less, the horror!) telling the world exactly what they were planning and asking them to change it.

    I may be more interested if it goes pretty deep into the history of how these people came to be who they are, and what sources influenced their thinking in this perverse "its only utopia if we build it, and if you dont think its utopia you are wrong" attitude they all seem to have.

  • Yeah it looks like she never submitted to Maralago face either, she still looks way too much like herself for that ilk.

  • It's so interesting to me that they simultaneously think that they can privatize everything and that there will always be people there to care for them somehow. One of the real issues with privatization is the problem of businesses not wanting to train the next generation of workers, they want workers coming in already knowing the ropes, they don't want to spend money on training them.

    So what happens after all the avenues of becoming a doctor shut down, and their private doc retires, and they struggle to replace them because now there are no new doctors? It just doesn't make a lick of sense, honestly, because shutting down these places will result in people in the medical field having to find other jobs (and they no longer exist in their field once its all shut down) and those skills will end up fading as they move to other fields and the number of people in the medical field able to support ANYONE including the billionaire class continues to shrink.

    Everything about what they do is so completely short sighted.

  • In the early 2000s I worked in the news and used to see her on CNBC. For how intelligent and top of things she seemed at the time, it always was a bit surprising to me that she turned to FOX and then Trump. Makes me a bit sad for her to have chosen such a path, so much potential wasted.

  • That last season

    My memories of the last season of Pinky & the Brain are markedly different.

  • It's just a bit silly considering how these companies have been leveraging publicly available information and how automated most of their systems actually are. It's part of why customer service at many of them (not Apple so much I guess) is absolutely abysmal and they basically do their best to try to avoid to having a human being in the customer service loop at all. Automating almost all software and removing the human element has literally been the name of the game for 20 years at least.

    I mean the original Google ranking algorithm itself was partially made by checking the publicly available information (via web scraping) of how many times a site had been linked to from other sites. And to keep it accurate, they had to keep scraping constantly to keep updating the publicly available data for their own purposes.

  • I wish this was talked about more. So much hay being made about this on the assumption that Google maintains their own database of locations instead of pulling from sources like GNIS like they actually do.

    Fuck Google, but we don't need to make shit up to hate them. In fact, making shit up makes us seem crazy and hurts our position. These companies do enough real evil shit, we don't need to piss our time away on this non-issue.

    Where's this fucking energy for Google removing sideloading from Android, for example. I've seen way more mainstream news about this one item on a fucking map than I have about the loss of sideloading and the loss of actual ownership of the devices we purchase.

  • I'd personally suggest Tuta over Proton simply because of the sketchiness of the Proton ownership and their conservative, business-first, citizens-second views.

  • Aegis is tits and it makes it easy to transfer TOTP codes back and forth between Aegis and KeePassXC.

  • I legit thought they were joking.

  • Thanks for the info. I didn't really understand the add-on, just that it was trying to add it in an unsafe manner. I figured someone with more knowledge would show up with more info. Cheers.

  • Sounded interesting until I hit their "web app"

    No Firefox (and derivatives) support can and should be a fucking dealbreaker.

  • Americans and rolling over after impotent protest, name a more a iconic duo.

    (The vast majority of reddit users are from the US)

  • Used the fact that he named me after himself to commit fraud using my name.

  • I've done the work. It's Amazon's Mechanical Turk on steroids because you're actually simultaneously the Turk and fixing the Turk

  • but to be fair, the first post ever on Reddit was the Downing Street Memo.

  • 196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Please Be Nice Rule

  • TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world

    Get the cheese to sickbay!

  • politics @lemmy.world

    U.S. Institute for Peace called D.C. police on Musk team members ... instead, the D.C. police allowed them to enter and kicked out the institute’s officials

    www.nytimes.com /live/2025/03/17/us/trump-news/5a1fab41-927e-56fa-bf82-dc3e4aa4982a
  • Ask Lemmy @lemmy.world

    US Lemmings: I need help selling my car and I have no idea what I am doing anymore.

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Thanks to Nvidia, there's a new generation of PCs coming, and they'll be running Linux

    www.zdnet.com /article/thanks-to-nvidia-theres-a-new-generation-of-pcs-coming-and-theyll-be-running-linux/
  • politics @lemmy.world

    ‘Obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned’: JD Vance breaks from Trump’s ‘had no choice’ claims about Jan. 6 rioters and says violent offenders should stay locked up and charged

    lawandcrime.com /high-profile/obviously-you-shouldnt-be-pardoned-jd-vance-breaks-from-trumps-had-no-choice-claims-about-jan-6-rioters-and-says-violent-offenders-should-stay-locked-up-and-charged/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Tiny anime girl cyberprison shown at CES

    www.pcgamer.com /hardware/tiny-anime-girl-cyberprison-shown-at-ces/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Labor Certification for Permanent Employment of Foreign Workers in the United States; Modernizing Schedule A To Include Consideration of Additional Occupations in Science, Technology, Engineering, and

    www.federalregister.gov /documents/2023/12/21/2023-27938/labor-certification-for-permanent-employment-of-foreign-workers-in-the-united-states-modernizing
  • Star Trek @lemmy.world

    Rant: Star Trek writers really need to be more careful about what living scientists they choose to reference.

    www.thestand.org /2024/05/fungi-perfecti-workers-joining-together-with-liuna-252/
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    The Man Who Killed Google Search

    www.wheresyoured.at /the-men-who-killed-google/