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PeriodicallyPedantic

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  • Seriously what's that idea?

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  • That's a limb that wouldn't support your weight.

    I used to support your concept of block, until I was in a thread like this one, and someone from a minority community explained to me the consequences of these design decisions

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  • Yeah, fuck those minorities, amirite? They don't deserve to use Lemmy anyways\

    • you, a couple min ago

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  • That's not how harassment works. I think you know that, too.

    Consider it a restraining order.

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  • This isn't about me, this is about what people from persecuted minorities have told me they need, when I bought this exact argument to them.

    I used to say what you're saying them they described to be the harassment that they face

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  • What I'm saying also protects vulnerable communities at least a little, and what you're saying leaves them vulnerable.

    If they're able to comment on my content I'm my communities, then I need to be able to see if they're spreading misinformation about me to my friends and acquaintances. Rather than just blind myself to that, I'd rather put barriers between my content and their ability to do that.

    Imo protecting people from harassment is more important than protecting my ability to combat misinformation on some strangers' posts.

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  • The problem you've solved is that they're not harassing you in your spaces, and your communities. If they wanna cry about me in their basement with their own friends, that's ok. But I want to put hurdles, at least some inconveniences, between myself and their ability to harass me in my communities. Force them to manage 30 accounts, etc.

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  • I used to agree with you until I actually spoke with people from communities that get regularly harassed.

    Muting is great if all you want to do is hide content you don't like. But if you need to defend yourself against a campaign of harassment, this only gives power to the harassers.

    Yes all the have to do is make a new account, but it's another hurdle they have to cross. Better than no hurdle and also blindfolding yourself

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  • I'd call that "muting" rather than blocking.

    And it leaves vulnerable communities open to abuse, because they're unable to police their communities and kick out harassers.

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  • I'd call what you're describing "muting" rather than blocking.

    I used to agree with you, but then I spoke with some people from persecuted minorities, and this style of blocking just gives power to their abusers rather than keeping their communities and themselves safe.

    Yes they can get a new account, but it's another hurdle, and if we erect enough hurdles then it'll catch enough of them. Defense in depth.

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  • If I block them, I want to stop them from engaging with me.

    I don't want to let them continue to engage with me and other people in my comments, but just lose my ability to see what they're saying about me.

    That's like saying the purpose of a locked door isn't to keep people out, it's to prevent you from seeing what they're doing in your house

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  • I want to stop them from engaging with me. I don't want to let them keep engaging with me without my ability to see what they're saying.

    Edit: Give persecuted minorities a way to protect themselves.This comes from discussions I've had with minorities about the harassment they face on Lemmy and mastodon, and the current block mute feature is more harmful than helpful.

    If you're using "block" to curate your content, then it works great. If you're trying to prevent harassment, then it's counterproductive

  • ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?

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  • Because with federated services people don't have to host an activitypub server, you can join a federated instance that someone else maintains.

    The typical Twitter user balked at just selecting a mastodon instance when they signed up in the app.. similar issues for reddit users looking to come to lemmy. If you think that they're going to be willing to go and set up and manage their own server, even on a free hosting site, you're wildly mistaken.

    If you don't think you need the normies on your social network anyways, I have no polite way to tell you that most people want to join social networks with their friends.

  • ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?

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  • Maybe? But I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I mean, it's the best option you have, but that doesn't make it a good option.

  • ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?

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  • It's ephemeral because now you're demanding that everyone stand up their own web-addressable servers that the rss readers can search, if they want their own content to be searchable. Which isn't going to happen. So in practice, it's going to be either federated, or ephemeral.

  • ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?

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  • Why do we advocate for, and pour hours of development into, ActivityPub rather than

    Because that's what the devs are interested in doing. If you're going to ask anyone, ask them.

    a big thing you're missing is discovery of old content and searching. You're describing a purely ephemeral social network. Activitypub itself can't solve that, but this is why federated networks exist instead of purely P2P.Maybe some people want that, after all Snapchat became popular. But it wouldn't work for something like Lemmy.

  • Today I learned about meshtastic, a long range off-grid open-source communication platform

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  • This will be fantastic during the apocalypse and we lose Internet. Too bad I'll have lost the Internet so I won't be able to learn how to get the equipment and set it up, until it's too late

  • [META] Could people here just FOLLOW THE RULES?

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  • Gross

  • [META] Could people here just FOLLOW THE RULES?

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  • Eww, why are you still talking?

  • [META] Could people here just FOLLOW THE RULES?

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  • Because being good is good.Except wrt you. Ew, gross.