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  • That's a very good point, but I feel like it would just lead to an argument about which series (DS9) is somehow objectively "best" (it's DS9), and that's really not the sort of argument I'm here to start (because it's obviously DS9).

  • True, early TNG would be a better fit. And I get that having any other series in the leftmost spot feels wrong.

    Still, I'd have to go with:

    • TNG = Leonardo
    • DS9 = Donatello
    • VOY = Michelangelo
    • ENT = Raphael
  • Order sorted chronologically, though, there’s a decent argument to be made fitting each member’s personality.

    I just clicked in specifically to chastise you for assigning TNG to Mikey of all turtles!

  • Premature birth induced by the high stress situation? Kelvin must have been planning to get back to Earth in pretty short order if so.

  • FOUR! LIGHTS!

  • Ferengi in TOS:

  • He speaks of the pompatus of logic.

  • Sure, but the timeline splits at 2233, and would progress from there to the 2360s when some crossover could conceivably occur.

    But yes, it’s really just a silly meme, and really only exists to poke some fun at JJ’s awesome needle drop.

  • For the sake of the meme, we might imagine he spent some time there in between scenes of "Parallels".

    It'd be interesting to see Kelvin's 24th century.

  • That's what makes it so dirty.

  • Yeah… I really wish I was able to appreciate that. The idea of Kirk being given a reprieve from his fate in Generations to have one final moment with his t’hy’la is very sweet if nothing else. But between the horrible CGI body replacements and the impenetrable story they built around it, I really couldn’t feel any of the emotion that scene should have.

    That said, it’s at least focused on the human connections of Kirk’s life. The other approach that’s been hinted at lately, some kind of secret Section 31 scheme, sounds much less appealing.

  • I have a bit of a knee-jerk reaction that Star Trek should be looking forward rather than backward, but I also love SNW so that's obviously not a hard and fast rule. You're right that this could be done well, but I'm very skeptical that it would be. 

    My biggest concern is that they would over aggrandise the character. Kirk was always a big personality, but he was also very flawed and human. I don't want to watch every other character fawning over the legendary Captain Kirk, or see him battling the Borg at 95.

    I also don't want to see an uncanny valley digital mockery, I can't stand those.

    But if they came up with something like Relics was for Scotty - an intimate, meaningful story that put a button on the character's life and didn't feel the need to build it up as some galaxy-shattering event - I could be into that. But I doubt that's what they're considering.

  • TOS' quality drops off in the third season, but those first two years are almost all bangers. TNG era shows have a similar ratio, it's just reversed: they struggle at the start, and pick up as they go.

  • Aw, I dig the lens flares. Abrams may be a pretty lousy storyteller at times, but he always gets points from me for style.

  • I’m a fan of Universe, and thought it got a bad rap, but yeah - SG1 is obviously the jewel of the Stargate franchise.

  • Your degree of prior knowledge isn’t much of an issue. Every show explores its own little corner of the universe, and they all stand well enough on their own.

    I’ll make an exception for Lower Decks - it’s full of referential humour that you’ll appreciate more if you’ve at least seen TNG first.

    I’d say start from the beginning, unless you’re particularly uncomfortable with TV from the sixties. Most Star Trek takes a season or three to really find their groove, but TOS fires on all cylinders right out of the gate.

    If you crave something more modern, Strange New Worlds is an excellent place to start, with the advantage that you can enjoy new episodes as season 3 comes out later this year.

    TNG is a popular recommendation, but it’s a little dated itself, and the first season is strikingly rough around the edges.

  • Yeah, it’s weird. Compare Star Wars to Lord of the Rings? Of course. Compare Star Trek to Doctor Who? I can see it. Compare Star Wars to Star Trek? Makes no sense to me.

  • All Star Trek is just Forbidden Planet fanfiction.