Lots of terrible stuff was done by the west/USA, or because of it. These countries you listed are in some ways much worse for their own people than the US is for americans, but mostly don't terrorize other countries. I think you grossly underestimate the amount of people murdered by US and its allies' bombs compared to those murdered by their own authoritarian governments.
When you learn about all the horrendous monstrosities some of the goverments do, it's easy to just dismiss any critique of the West, because at least they are not this evil.
Well, I think the tankies have it just like that, just reversed. When they learned about all the tens of thousands (probably more? idk) innocent people and little kids murdered by the USA in all those countries all in the recent history, and none of our "civilized" countries doing anything about it, they just support any regime that opposes the US, because at least it's not this evil.
If you have the world mostly divided into two camps, it's very depressing to acknowledge how evil both are. If you see one's atrocities first, it's easy to dismiss the other's due to it.
Now, some tankies are more fanatical than others, but many of them are similar to liberals supporting the US. They don't deny some of the flaws of china for example, but they still support it over the US, for obvious reasons. The US supporters also don't deny some of the war crimes and atrocities, especially after a few years since they happened, but they never see the big picture. They see individual mistakes excusable by the perceived evilness of the enemy.
Tl; dr:
When you said:
The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.
you basically answered your question.
Just reverse the sides.
maybe show some evidence? otherwise you are just wasting people's time. you probably read that somewhere, no? if so, whoever said so should have provided evidence. if they didn't, it's better to ask them to do so than to post here without context.
I had an argument with the user posting the Jago comics, and I have two things to add here:
Even when many users presumably blocked them, there's still a lot more downvotes than upvotes on most of the Jago comics they posts. Thus it's actually a majority, if there isn't something I overlooked.
If we asume that a) majority of people don't like these comics and b) they will all eventually block them, it will be really bad for any new user. What will any average new user see is a bunch of comics they don't like, with almost only upvotes (since users who blocked the poster don't downvote it)
I think that's gonna drive new users away, and it's a reason why I wouldn't promote Lemmy to my friends for example.
By banning people from posting if the majority doesn't want to see what they are posting. If I was in the minority of downvoters I would simply block you.
But if I were to invite people to Lemmy now, it would go like: "it's amazing but there are a few people posting bad stuff every day and you have to manually block them to make the place enjoyable"
It's not just me, it's objectively the majority. And that's excluding people who blocked you and thus don't downvote you.
You act like you have some undeniable right to post whatever you want if it doesn't break the rules directly, but you seem to forgot that the rules are there to make the community enjoyable.
fair, but it was never my choice, i'm a student and the only times i traveled by plane were with someone who paid for me and decided what to use.