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My main account is here. I'm also using this one: solo@piefed.social, because I really like the feed feature.

Btw I'm a non-binary trans person [they/she/he].

  • I was not satisfied by my previous answer, so I thought of deleting it and giving it another try.


    So your suggestion is that we can keep our moral judgments out of practical considerations without espousing the objective truth of moral facts?

    Not at all. I would be extremely hesitant to suggest something on this topic, for all people. In a way, this is the reason why I talked about how I see things on a personal level, specifically.

    About the category error, once more I don't know the terms you use, so I will answer from what I understand by the way you describe them.

    My question was related to a notion (objective morality), and not a physical object (i.e. a rock). Notions exist - to my understanding - because we use language, so we should be able to define them. An object like a rock, is there even if language is not used. So I don't see where the category error could be.

    Finally, I will rephrase my 2-part question for clarity, because only half of it got kind of answered:

    Since you claim that morality is objective I would assume that you would be capable of tracing where this objectivity comes from, how it emerged, and how it stays that way. I'm not too sure how to phrase this as a question, but it's something along those lines.

    Also, if it were objective for all people, I imagine we would all know its content. But, for example, the terms morally good & morally bad even tho they are commonly used in modern languages, they often have different content. So, it seems clear to me that the terms morally good and bad are not objective. So which morality is objective? Please, describe the content of this notion you claim to be objective.

  • I don't know the term you mentioned so I'll be talking about the points you made, not the term itself.

    So, I don't need morality to condemn the human suffering that slavery, female genital mutilation, or genocide creates. I don't need a moral lens for this, just a practical one -- out of solidarity, for freedom, equity, equality etc, for everyone on this planet. This is why it's easy for me to justify any fight for social justice. These fights are by default systemic so against the status quo. I hope it is clear why I don't need an objective moral truth.

    I would like to ask you, when you say morality is objective who defines it and what is it?

  • The way I see things, there is nothing objective about morality because it is based on cultural principles, and these vary from place to place and through time as well.

  • Yeah, I see what you mean and on top of that you would need to pay for it.

    That's why I added in the description a link with instructions on the free tool designed by Amnesty International's Security Lab.

  • You're totally right, legality should not be a concern in cases like that.

    What I liked in this article is that it gives examples of actions on several levels, and I think this is important because a tone of things need to be done to effectively fight fascism in societies.

  • I need evidence

    Maybe The dawn of everything: A new history of humanity by David Graeber and David Wengrow could be a nice start?

    Check out this video and/or download here

  • Coincidentally, I'm also queer, an immigrant most of my life (since childhood actually and in several places), and I am most probably neurodivergent, but never had the money to check this out officially.

    I think understand what you say. Still, the way I see things if we do a statement/analysis mentioning humans I believe we are condemned to arrive to the wrong conclusions if we only take into account the dominant civilization/culture. Or see things through its narrative.

    I'm not saying to discard its importance. I'm just saying it's equally important to take into consideration broader inputs through time and space, to try to have a clearer picture.

    Something like that.

  • No, I don't agree with this at all. It tells us something about capitalism. It tells us something about how the U.S. are nowadays. Nothing more, nothing less.