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  • Look, Gen Z has some stinkers ("that's fire," sucks, and that's coming from the generation that gave you, "hella,"), but their use of Chud is spectacular. A perfect encapsulation of every grubby, right-wing freak from incels to groypers. A near perfect onomatopoeia.

  • Yeah, well, maybe we shouldn't have our government ban athletes from competitions because you don't understand something.

  • I'm not qualified to answer that, and neither are you, but I don't give a shit because it's a goalpost shift.. IOC is looking at one study, while studies that analyze multiple studies indicate there isn't enough data, but what data there is points to there not being an advantage. I'm also curious as to whether they mean trans women or trans women and cis men when they say, "biological men," have an advantage, but it's neither here nor there because A) you're still cherry picking the data that conforms to your worldview and B) you've very clearly conceded the initial argument that the government should be in charge of this. Anyway, you done yet, or do you still want to be wrong at ne a little longer?

  • Note that other studies, including meta studies that analyze multiple studies, have concluded that there trans athletes don't appear to be at an advantage, and that their results are, "low confidence," meaning their isn't enough scientific data to make a determination either way. I actually shared the most recent of those studies earlier in this thread, but you ignored it because it didn't conform to your beliefs. Which isn't very scientific.

  • Well, this is an excellent example of an independent sports organization using scientific data to make their own determination on what the rules should be around trans athletes. Thank you for admitting I was right, I'm sure that wasn't easy for you.

  • Yeah, where did you think the, "data that proves trans athletes have a competitive advantage," was going to come feom? Or it's just up to science? Like, the abstract concept of science is going to set the rules for sports leagues? Or is there gonna need to be some authority on sports and athletics to enforce those rules? Some sort of athletic association? Anyway, if ypu think you parse words until I get frustrated and drop this, you are deeply underestimating how petty I am.

    (Also, as I pointed out earlier in this thread, what little science there is on trans athletes has determined that transs athletes don't have a competitive advantage,.so I guess you support including them!)

  • Then they can say, "If there is data that proves trans athletes have a competitive advantage, then having them play in the same league as cis athletes would be unfair, but I trust athletic leagues and school districts to make that determination, and not politicians with ideological agendas."

    Like, seriously, this is your argument? The Democrats need to support trans athlete bans, even though a plurality of Americans don't want them to do that, because a Republican might ask a difficult question? Are tou serious?

  • Yeah, and a plurality of the people in that study said they don't want the federal government making the rules for trans athletes:

    In January, a New York Times/Ipsos poll found that 79% of U.S. adults, including 67% of Democrats, think that transgender female athletes should not be allowed to compete in women’s sports. However, Americans are much more closely divided when forced to choose who should be in charge of setting the rules for fair sports participation.

    In this survey, a slim plurality of adults (45%) say that “local school districts and sports associations should set the rules for fair sports participation, not the federal government,” while 42% say “the federal government should ban transgender girls from playing girls’ sports and force them to play on the boys’ team.” (Data for Progress)

    Next time, find an actual analysis of the study instead of letting a right-wing rag like the post tell you the parts you want to hear.

  • Right, but if the plan is for her to convince the Democrats to clear the senate primary field gor her, then run for president anyway...well, they're probably figure out she lied when she announces her presidential run, and i bet they'll find some centrists to run for Schumer's seat. If she wrre taking Schumer's seat this cycle, she could then lie about not seeking the presidency and run in two years, but that's not the timeline.

  • Schumer has appeared so weak and ineffectual these last two years that I don't think he has a shot against any challenger, progressive or otherwise. Seriously, I'm pretty sure Cuomo or Adams could knock him out of that seat. Any honest advisor would probably tell him to not seek leadership again and retire at the end of his term so he can spare himself an embarrassing defeat.

  • Schumer isn't up for reelection until 2028, so that wouldn't really work. She would need to pick one or the other, she can't run for both simultaneously.

  • Anybody who believes it makes a lick of fucking sense to keep pretending the U.S. is the greatest country in the world and social safety nets are unnecessary...has already switched teams.

    YUP. And the most infuriating part is that, since about Reagan, the left bave been the ones that been told we must acquiesce to centrists, that we couldn't win elections without, "moderates," that we had to accommodate Clinton and the third-way crowd.

    Now, after a decade of slow declined followed by a decade of rapid collapse, it's clear that the centrists can't win in this political landscape. Do the party leaders see where the wind is blowing, listen to the voters, follow the progressives' victories, and tack to the left? Nope! They act as though pushing for social spending and welfare programs, AKA what the Democratic party stood for since FDR, is some sort of betrayal.

    Moving to the right? "Look, we need a big tent, but we're all on the same team!" Moving back to the left in the slightest? "Fuck you, I'm quitting the team."

  • Democrats want to adopt positions that they can win on.

    What evidence do you have, beyond your personal biases, that, "we are going supersede the judgement of independent organizations in order to dictate policies on trans athletes to them," is a winning position?

    It's better to have uniform laws since teams from different schools compete against each other.

    Athletic leagues don't operate on a school-by-school basis. There are county, state, and national leagues that are already setting the rules by which schools compete. The NFHS and NCAA, for example, already made the, "uniform laws," you want. Both organizations have already been forced to change their rules on trans athletes in certain states to accommodate anti-trans legislation, and the NCAA changed their national rules to comply with a (probably unlawful) executive order.

    This is what's so infuriating about your position. You act as though you're just asking for the government to make rules for everyone to follow, but you're actually asking for the government to overrule the rules you don't like.

  • One Democratic lawmaker sitting in a battleground district told CNN that they are so concerned about the rise of the Democratic Socialists of America that they have recently begun having serious conversations with donors about leaving the party altogether.

    The fact that their impulse is to get their donors opinions instead of their constituents is why they need to be primaried.

  • Still side-stepping the question. I couldn't possibly care less about what you think is or isn't fair. Why is it so important to you that the Democrats adopt this position? Why should the federal government be regulating this at all? Why not trust athletic associations, who's entire purpose is to facilitate fair competitions for their teams and players, to make this determination on their own?

  • Oh, so now it's a safety issue? Alright, well then how far do we take this? Should children be segregated by gender in case the boys accidentally hurt the girls during recess? Should including girls in a pickup game of basketball be considered reckless endangerment? I mean, if professional and academic sports organizations can't be trusted to make these decisions,.why should we trust educators or parents?

    As for breaking records, well, if trans girls/women have such a huge advantage (and what little evidence we do have on the subject indicates they don't), again, why is that the government's job to regulate that instead of the athletic institutions? Why do you want the government dictating the rules surrounding this? You know, some schools let upperclassmen playi on the junior varsity team. Should the government be regulating that as well?

    It comes down to this; if you trust these athletic institutions to make all of these other determinations about fairness and safety, but feel the government needs to mandate their decisions on trans athletes, it doesn't seem like your issue is fairness and safety. It seems like it's trans people.

  • Even if trans athletes do have an advantage over cis athletes, why is it the job of politicians to regulate that? There are athletic leagues at every academic level who are supposed to determine what constitutes fair competition and regulate their programs accordingly. Why should federal legislators, who have less expertise than these organizations, be writing their rules for them?

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  • Ok, well, most restaurants have notoriously small margins (3-5%) with tipping. So, setting aside what you think should and shouldn't be, what is an actual solution? Eliminate tipping and raise prices? Restructure the agricultural pipeline to lower costs? Cap commercial real estate prices to reduce rental overhead? Because as it stands now, you can't eliminate tipping without getting the money somewhere, and it's not in the restaurants profits.

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  • If someone is being paid a real wage, you are not obligated to tip them. I don't really see the need to legislate away your feelings of social pressure. That being said, you're right that payment processors have gotten out of control with their tipping demands. There is no reason that a simple retail transaction should be presenting you with a tipping option. However, it's important to understand that this pressure is part of an exploitation scheme.

    All an employee just needs to qualify for the tipped minimum wage is to regularly make $30 a month in tips, at which point their employer can start using those tips to subsidize their wages. So, let's say you go to your local bakery; you've never tipped their before, but now they have a POS system that prompts you to tip, so you do. Once each employee makes $30 per month in tips, the owner switches to a tipped minimum wage. He tells his employees he thinks they'll make more money overall, and if they make less than minimum wage in tips, he's required to make up the difference anyway. At first it's great for employees; their paycheck is much smaller but the tips more than make up for it. But soon, the owner notices that, on certain days, the employees aren't earning enough tips, ane he's making up the differences. That's when he decides to cut hour to maximize his newfound savings on staffing. Now employees are losing hours, they're overworked and understaffed when they do work, and rhe customer is paying more. Everyone loses except the owner.

    Eliminating tipping will fix this, but it will also hurt the industries that traditionally have tipped employees. I did a lot of service work and a lot of retail work when I was younger, and I can tell you, restaurant work is easily harder. If I had been offered the same wage for retail or service work, with no tips, I'd have gone with retail every time. Now, you might think that the solution would be for restaurants to just pay servers more, but restaurants already have small margins (3-5%), and there would be a price increase just to make minimum wage viable. Without other massive reductions in cost (which would require changes to both the agricultural and real estate industries), there are basically two options; eliminate the tipped minimum wage, which would eliminate employers incentives to exploit the staffing subsidies it creates, and have tipping be a nice perk, or eliminate tipping altogether, which would either lead to massive increases in restaurant prices or staffing shortages in the service industry.