Makes two of us. I cannot believe you’re okay with another human being treating you like that. Who cares if they own the joint. Nobody forced them to do it. If you decide to spin up an instance you do it because you want to help the human race. You want to make the internet more positive.
And here people are defending less-enlightened admins who just randomly feel like banning people just for the sake of it, just because they can.
And somehow I’m the disrespectful one. Come on. Don’t build a tent for people to join publicly and then randomly exclude that person because you don’t like something you overheard. If you’re like that, build a private tent.
Humans are an interesting bunch. So diverse that you and me can have complete polar views on this. Regardless, have a good one mate. Nothing personal, just different moral/ethics framework I suspect.
Good, then you won’t see it even if I hit you with it. It’s not about another account, it’s about how the admins can do this without accountability.
You may win the upvote contest, but your claims are incorrect.
the modlog doesn’t fully federate, the reasons are instance only.
there is shaddowbanning, as effectively again, due to the poorly designed federated model, intra-instance bans are not communicated to the user until they attempt to interact with the community/instance where they are banned.
It’s always interesting to read people who are not concerned about this. You must live very different lives. And the automatic upvoting of that line of thought and the downvoting of any kind of pushback is just hilarious. Some days it feels like Reddit is more progressive than whatever this is.
I’m not, I don’t care about that. I am literally talking about a hypothetical scenario. Using the word hypothetical was a clue missed.
I’m saying we are trying to be one of the last bastions of free decentralised speech, and it turns out we’re not really protected from Mini-Spezzes going full authoritarian. Not just on lemmy.zip, but anywhere. The software (made by already questionable devs I hear) has authoritarianism built in.
Go ahead downvote again, I was under the impression this decentralised model ment more accountability for the ones with red button access too. I was wrong.
And of course I know you can have multiple accounts, but that’s not a solution. Not if you have an account that has some standing of sort.
I know my opinions can be hard to hear for some, so if it’s just me, I don’t really care. I never really interacted with that instance anyway. But if this is a powertripping admin who is systematically doing instance wide bans on users then I’d be happy to testify under oath.
Ok from that point of view it is seems reasonable, but seeing how I’m on world, and world is like still 60-70% of Lemmy, I was referring to the fact that hypothetically one lemmy.world admin could essentially make people disappear.
Which is what ICE is for.
Which is kinda what we’re here trying to call out.
With insane levels of power I meant that one person in their basement with their parents creditcard who no one elected, has a disproportionate say in who gets to speak and who doesn’t.
I’m not on X and I’m basically just discovering (I know) that this is just a glued together bunch of X-es. (In terms of of absolute admin power, luckily not (yet) in terms of content)
If that person did this reasonless instance-banning with multiple people, at what point would there be a consideration to defederate from their instance? Is there even a process for that?
So Occam’s Razor is that this instance admin must have seen one of my opinionated pieces on Trump or something that offended them, and then just said “Nah, this one isn’t coming to my instance”?
Not because I broke a rule, or offended anyone on that instance but because one person didn’t like my opinion on a post somewhere else.
Well apparently I offended you and I’m sorry if I did.
I didn’t go on a forum and demand they speak English. I saw some disturbing imagery in german and said that this probably should be wider known. I trust you were the one doing that mod remove or will be able to find the exact wording.
This is the other thing. On good fast clients like Voyager, the community is really not that important or visible. People just respond and post. That’s it.
This is how it is supposed to work. I posted something in English on a German forum, didn’t know that that was a german forum to begin with, and it got removed. Fair and square. The mods have some custom rules, and they enforce them reasonably. No ban or permaban.
I once responded to a post on a women-only forum. My post was reported by a woman who was attempting to gender other users (and pointed to me because I have ‘king’ in the username). The moderator told me I wasn’t welcome, and I refused to be gendered and asked her to ban me to avoided future accidental comments. The key thing is that these are all online incursions that happen every day and they don’t result in permanent bans.
Autism can be self diagnosed, and don’t fucking talk to me that way. Not all of the world is full of snowflakes. You can in some places say forbidden words and be light about them without offending anyone.
Permabanning should not be a thing. It’s a disproportionate response to a barely existing problem. And if you have it, at least it should have an appeals process.
Permabans should not be instant.
Permabans should require a warning
Permabans should have an expiry.
Absent that, you’ll be able to brag about how many new user sign up every day, because people want to continue participating in a community, despite pissing off a random moderator.
Big difference. Autism isn’t a slur, it’s a type of behaviour, I am autistic. It is to specify they follow rules very specifically (and without empathy) and again, I am warning others, which you could take issue with. So I was permabanned based on an implication?
Yes there were multiple occasions of that, and not just on that community. Mods are not keeping the community safer by removing that, they are just using their excess power to enforce respect rather than earning it.
The way you know it is excessive mod abuse is because they went straight to permaban, no warning, no temp ban.
They way you know they are autistic is that:
politics only allows US politcs, not world politics, despite its name being generic.
only news articles with the exact same headline are allowed, no modifications allowed even if it is to provide clarity.
if it is only about US politics, their literal castle is on fire, and they are one of the last free place on the internet for free speech, and they are permabanning people left right and centre for implying ableism.
Don’t just show the modlog on me, show it on the entire community. Last thing I saw on there was crying about people creating hit and run accounts, and while I don’t condone of that either, just hapslappy permabanning is the cause of that.
As I said in my other comment, down the reddit drain we must go, because we didn’t change the fundamental problem of reddit, which was mod abuse.
This is an open form let people speak, or fuck off to reddit if you want to be powerhungry like spez.
