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  • Why would the economy and society collapse?

  • Assuming overpopulation, food shortages, war, starvation, suffering of billions. Depriving people of the power to reproduce seems the kinder path.

  • So brave

  • I spent 10 years looking for a good 2d geometry flooping paradigm.

  • If you have been manipulated into accepting a fact, surely that casts the fact into doubt.

  • Yes, the difference between "right according to firsthand observation and judgment" and "right according to the consensus and all its organs". They are worlds apart. That is the nub of my gist here.

  • The world is not an action movie with clear divisions between good and bad. Keep that in mind.

  • No, I meant right as in correct.

  • I doubt that final clause. Sure you can free yourself of your truths. You only need to sacrifice a bit of face, ego and maybe certainty.

  • Bob makes a precise observation and thus concludes that the earth is round.

    Rob is told that the earth is round, in school, and thus concludes that the earth is round.

    Are they both right?

  • I think every nation offers that argument, not just Hitler.

  • That's generally all we've got. Nobody has time for science or whatever.

    But if you had evidence that you were manipulated, that would make you feel less certain in your rightness. Right?

  • A virus would. But a man should be certain that he's propagating truth, surely.

  • Exactly.

    If you had evidence that you are a victim of manipulation, it shakes your certainty.

    Shouldn't it?

  • Via the mind-manipulating technique called "propaganda" an idea is inserted into your head, and the rightness of the idea too.

    Understand?

  • That's rather beside my point. As you well know.

    Why play these games?

  • Case in point

  • In the past you received a symbol, and a meaning to go with that symbol.

    In the present, you refer to that meaning when you see that symbol.

    Yes, there was some kind of deeper communication in the past. The dictionary was written (among other things. Like the vastness of non-symbolic experience. Sensations and such).

    But in the present, in the act of "reading", it's just you, the dictionary (symbolic and nonsymbolic) and the symbol stream. However you slice it, the dictionary is large and the symbol stream is small.

  • I never met the fellow. I never did the science either.

    You all are easily impressed.