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  • Also, even if California does pass their maps, it just offsets Texas, but Florida and Ohio also already have their own redistricting in the works and I imagine other red states aren't that far behind

    When every red and blue state gerrymanders as hard as they can, Republicans will walk away with more seats and Dems will walk away with a bigger challenge to convince the average voter we believe in fair elections

  • Every time I have to do an after call/chat survey I try to add a comment along the lines of "Your representative was very helpful, but I had to deal with too much waiting and too many chatbots to reach them. Please hire more staff."

  • They can’t stop it forever.

    Why do you think so?

  • My read on it is that some collaborator douchebags in the party tried to force their bullshit ideas on the rest of the party by telling the media it was bound to happen but then they just got contradicted by a public statement from their leadership.

    After our initial reporting online and on television, a spokesperson for the Texas Democratic Caucus sent the following statement to ABC News:

    "Members are still assessing their strategies going forward and are in a private meeting to make decisions about future plans currently," he wrote. "If and when Texas House Democrats breaking quorum decide to go home is squarely dependent on the actions the Governor, Speaker, and Texas Republicans in charge make with regard to prioritizing flood victims over redistricting that hurts Texans."

    Honestly not sure how they can justify keeping that headline with this additional information

  • Oh, I remember that one and that is an excellent choice. "You have to integrate this into your character" felt like the most violent thing a game has ever done to me.

  • If the state police of California/New York/Illinois/etc. allow 20 FBI agents to get close enough to my door to knock on it I'm already screwed, but I would probably try to shout out a few clever insults before those agents break my jaw or whatever

  • 0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

  • Ok, now try to tell your average voter why gerrymandering is good actually, I'm sure they'll be receptive to that message /s

    The single greatest thing Democrats could do to get people in a voting booth is run on an anti-corruption, progressive economic agenda and show some backbone.

    Completely agreed, but this isn't that, this is using Republican misbehavior in other states to ruin their own states in a way that won't even get us the house and will be a drag on other races outside of their states

  • Oh yeah, I'm sure if we get them down from a 5 vote margin to a 2 vote margin that will actually make a difference and Republicans will behave better /s

  • Agreed, but this particular road is a dead end

  • If we're still just abiding by supreme court rulings and don't have a plan to neutralize their influence all this talk is completely pointless, the supreme court will uphold Texas's maps and strike down California's if they think that will help Republicans hold on to the house, regardless of law and facts.

    But the more immediate issue is that they don't need to because we don't have enough blue states to make this a guaranteed kill shot on Republican power and blue state governors talking about gerrymandering their states will damage the party's brand in purple districts in other states, so this is ineffective at best and more likely a real step backwards

  • In light of this, pursuing a strategy that's going to justify Republicans' efforts to do the same but that won't get us enough seats to take a majority in the House seems like a really bad idea

  • Offsetting some of the damage has zero practical effect with these Republicans, we need to cancel it out entirely. If they have even a one vote margin in the House they will shove the craziest legislation through with it.

    The better strategy at this point is to draw a clear and simple distinction that the everyone can easily understand - the Democratic party doesn't redistrict without a new census and they don't ever say they're drawing districts just to disadvantage political opponents, that's something only illegitimate tyrants do. Besides the messaging, do whatever is necessary to keep Texas and the other states from pushing their redistricting forward (e.g. don't let the Texas state house get a quorum again).

    Keep hammering that simple message, then as soon as we get any kind of majority in the House and get to set the rules there we will be well positioned to say "Anybody elected through a mid-census redistricting is illegitimate and will not be seated as a lawmaker in this House" and throw these fascist dipshits from Texas and Florida and Ohio and wherever else out on the steps without making the average person who doesn't follow politics that closely clutch their pearls over it.

  • we can't stop them at the SCOTUS

    Wrong

    we can't stop them at the Federal level

    Wrong

    cause gerrymandering is just the wrong thing to do.

    Wrong, cause gerrymandering won't work because we don't have enough states to gerrymander. I respect the intentions behind it but it is a bad strategy.

  • Yeah, note that wealthy Republicans in Texas aren't going to get any of their plans there disrupted by this nonsense. This is just using their bullshit as an excuse to screw over democracy in New York.

  • Good start (and infinitely better than the "then we're gonna do our own gerrymander!" bullshit NY and CA Dems are apparently contemplating), but if you really feel an obligation to protect Texans you should start warming people up to the idea of having a coalition of blue state governments send their troopers into Texas to depose the tyrants an re-establish democracy, because that's what this is gonna take

  • How does changing New York's redistricting rules help defeat Texas Republicans? Or prevent Florida Republicans or Ohio Republicans or Iowa Republicans or etc. from doing their own bullshit redistricting?