People see what they want to see? I've seen content I don't agree with on several instances but the main reason I've got my main on lemmy.ml over Beehaw is because it annoys me greatly that there's so often posts I don't see that are relevant to me or just communities that seem accessible but inactive but are actually blocked without the interface saying so. This spuriously makes it seems as if a community is dead.
To avoid ambiguity: Trump is a sentient lump of metastatic cancer and many right leaning people are limp-dick insecure ignorant assholes.
"Here we go. AK-47. The very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room, accept no substitutes." —Jackie Brown
I don’t know why people keep saying this. You either pay for a service, or you get a company extracting as much data as they can from you for advertiser or VC money. Servers and bandwidth cost money
Some people pay for Discord and they still exploit their data.
Some people pay for Lichess and their whole website is free of charge without tracking/advertising.
Yes, things cost money. Yes, ideally those who can pay for it should. No, something being free doesn't legitimize unethical means to make a profit.
The entire stock market has become a meme stock pyramid scheme. No price makes sense; it's all glorified gambling making life on this planet worse for most living things.
damni saw that meme and realized that i haven’t contacted lots of good people in a while because of how ofraid i am to resemble the girldamn, right in the feelings dude, ouch
Oh god are you really bringing up a “women do it to” point completely unprompted?
No. Merely stating that women aren't as fragile with a need to be protected as discussion like these often make them seem, e.g., "advancing on her was grooming by default because all people of that age are vulnerable". Seinfeld advanced, Shoshanna consented, and so did the parents. There was no vulnerability being exploited here. If it sounded like whataboutism then I should have phrased it better.
As for “being attracted to fertility” and whatever…yea that’s not it, chief. Maybe I’m of the group that doesn’t see it that way but I’m 30 and I see someone ~25 and under and I see a child, not someone I should be sexually attracted to. Certainly not someone who I’d actually give that kind of attention to. I’m more than monkey brain, and maybe most people aren’t but we trust them to have jobs and shit so they should be able to handle this, too.
Perhaps this is the crux of the matter, more people than you'd like have monkey brains. Have you looked at human behaviour in general? In comparison Jerry and Shoshanna having been a thing at their ages is a triviality compared to the actually unethical harmful things we do as a society. And just to be sure, this isn't a whataboutism again, because considering the quote mentioning her parents, there was no harm done.
Anyway, to bring it all back to my main point, it not being unethical doesn't mean everyone should intentionally start dating younger people, but merely that calling Seinfeld a paedophile is an irresponsible and ironically childish unconstructive thing to do. Just like him saying “'Free Palestine' are worse than the Ku Klux Klan”.
Think about the number of words you have written on this particular subject. I’m not saying it automatically makes you a weirdo to think so long and hard about this but… I wouldn’t want to hang out with you.
If you were falsely accused of rape or murder, would you want a lawyer that analyzes your case long and meticulously or a zero-attention-span illiterate straight from Idiocracy that sifts TikTok's "Ow-My-Ballz" videos all day?
Thinking long and deeply about oftentimes uncomfortable subjects or ethical dilemmas is why becoming a lawyer, doctor, judge, et cetera, is difficult, and accusing a person over the Internet is not. The latter unfortunately requires Brandolini's law to refute: “The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.”
Ok, so the guy goes for as young as he possibly can and we’re going to assume that that confirms that he wouldn’t going any younger if he could? That’s the thin ice I’m talking about.
Oh it wouldn't surprise me if many would go lower if the opportunity presented itself. Some of them, a small minority, will be paedophiles, and would go as low as they could. However, biologically the majority are simply attracted to fertility, attractiveness, i.e., young women, not girls. That's exactly why there's a need for an age or metric where ambiguity regarding potential harm/manipulation is decreased to a minimum, because obviously any kind of harm toward living beings is unethical; spare self-defence, but that's neither here nor there.
I agree that we cannot call him a pedophile because there is no direct evidence of it, I’m on board with that, but his actions are not doing a lot for him. If he said “oh yea I like 24 year olds and older” that’s still weird for his age but it shows that his limit is a personal one and not a legal one.
Only aiming for as young as legally possible would be suspicious, but as far as I'm reading he's still together with his wife Jessica Seinfeld who he met when she was 26, so I'm not yet sure what you mean by "his actions". Anyway, what about what the women think in these situations? Shoshanna was on board for four years, and so were her parents. There's no indication Seinfeld was inappropriate.
“Not Lonstein, though. What distance there is between them on life’s time line, it seems, they more than make up for with a similar temperament. “I am not an idiot,” says the comic. “Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She’s funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click.” Within weeks after their first date, friends and neighbors grew accustomed to the sight of the Seinfeld limousine idling outside the Upper East Side luxury apartment building where Lonstein lives with her 15-year-old brother, David, and her parents, Zachary, a wealthy computer-store owner, and Betty, a home-maker. The Lonsteins have always approved of the romance. “Shoshanna is very mature,” says a source close to the family. “Jerry is thoughtful, a good person. The family have nothing but positive feelings about the both of them. Everyone respects their relationship.” ―The Game of Love
It’s also weird that he says he could love someone whole-heartedly but also couldn’t properly communicate with her on more nuanced topics. Like, what made this minor so great and why could he not find that in anyone between 30-45y/o?
If you were referring to "I can’t philosophize with her", that's a quote from a wholly different book about two siblings part of the youth resistance in Nazi Germany. I just found that sentence particularly apt to decide whether a relationship is right or not.
ohh, i’m not here to argue with you, and you’re not about to change my mind.
I’m just pointing out that no matter how much you write, you’re not winning anything in the court of public opinion here.
Well in that case, no matter what the popular opinion on anything is, it in itself remains an argumentum ad populum fallacy:“In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum is a fallacious argument that asserts a claim is true, or good or correct because many people think so.”
At this point whatever Trump dies of is suicide.