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  • ..? His coup attempt in 2021 failed. What are you talking about exactly?

  • We should probably burn down the homes of people who use it then /s

  • Love it when people know everything that might have happened, as long as it makes Republicans look less shitty

  • "Nazis lament that they suffer for their perfect ideas"

  • Kind of an asshole statement tbh

  • Apparently the dev has an account and has taken notes on anyone that ever disagreed with them? I see I got banned from the tesseract community 8 months ago which I'd forgotten about honestly. Don't think I ever participated there but was banned out of the blue for "advocating violence". If memory serves I had made an implication about "Luigi" in an unrelated community. So it seems like the dude has lurked and made a list of "bad" people.

  • Trying to keep vegans from being seen as lunatics actually 100% helps animals, encouraging that thought does the opposite. Defending reasonable vegans is not all I do either, but given your knack for mental gymnastics I think this conversation has reached its end. Enjoy feeling good about yourself, but it does make it obvious where your real priorities are. You're fraudulent just like the "Chud" you defend. You've lost touch with reality to the point where I'm not even sure you're capable of understanding another perspective.

    Edit: "the vegan movement is already too popular. We'll stick with people who prefer to be verbally abused by unhinged psychos, thanks"

    I also like how you're implying that beating myself up is what would convince me (which it hasn't made me vegan or helped me in any other way, nor has it done so for anyone else either), but education would not be as effective.

  • Same. I've unseen this a couple of times now

  • I would agree that some of the comments are bullying, I don't know what cry bullying is. But the original commenter here saying any non vegan is an evil chud is absolutely bullying too, or is at least intending to be.

    I'm sure you won't believe me but it is nonetheless true, I defend vegans where I see them shit on unfairly... unless they start the conversation being an asswipe like this guy did. In that case there really ought to be a concern for what people take away from your ideological group. It's sad that I genuinely seem to want to prevent people from thinking "all vegans are crazy like that" more than you two do. You both seem to be thinking we are all evil anyway so we deserve to be labeled evil rather than educate us. If education had been happening here I'd be defending the original commenter. But instead I'm calling him an asswipe, since that's what he chose to be instead.

  • Hmm interesting because if you weren't being derisive I'm not sure why you brought up the "tears" . Probably would pay to consider "carnists" deserving of a thoughtful conversation rather than support a burning hatred (which clearly is counter productive on top of not actually making any vegan feel better)

  • carnist tears

    "I think people who 'deserve' my favorite insults ought to man up"

    Sounds like a very "vegan" thing to say /s

    Sarcastic because most vegans aren't insane, but are instead reasonable people who can articulate their views without projecting a burning hatred upon most of their species, and who also understand the concept of empathy directed at other humans.

  • Part of me understands that reasoning, and then a part of me is like "how the hell are you going to maintain such a list?"

    Seems like a fulltime job. I wonder if it's possible he instructed AI to make a list based on some criteria and then he just re-runs that periodically.

  • lol "^TrickDacy([0-9]+)?$", implies "this guy has lots of alts with numbers!" which I don't have any...

    I'm way more curious as to how this dumb shit came about rather than mad I'm being censored from the platform for some people. It's just bizarre. Like what did I do to get on the list? What did anyone do? I don't actually buy this "he's a fascist" thing just because I've not seen convincing evidence yet, and the person I asked about that yesterday didn't respond. Might've missed something. I kinda think maybe the dude filtered by most comments and then made a snap judgement. I've done a lot of commenting here so I may have been on such a list... who tf knows...

    edit: the way that file is formatted suggests it's maintained by hand. What a weird fuckin thing to do...

  • I think we are on the same page there... I kinda think we are probably doomed, but I don't want to fully give up.

  • and never think much about it

    Actually a lot of people do think about it. Which is what I'm really advocating for here. I don't expect or demand AI to go away. What I see as the problem is the same as the root problem elsewhere: all or nothing thinking. Either AI is good or it's bad. I want there to be a world where we don't run full speed with AI, dismissing valid point from detractors. In a world where 98% of people are not thinking about the dangers of AI, I'm glad 2% are, even if sometimes they come off like zealots...

  • but they aren’t necessary to have AI

    Does that matter if a thousand billionaires are building those based upon investors being convinced of the precise opposite? I'm not even sure what the truth is but it seems not all that important since I don't get to decide what gets built. What I can do is have tiny influence on the people I speak to. I can make them aware of the problem and maybe that can bubble up to a larger understanding if enough people spread that awareness also.

  • I'm not sure anyone is insisting on calling things slop which cannot be discerned isn't human-written. Like another commenter pointed out, it's the obvious-slop that is the subject of ire.

  • you’d have to be really stupid to give AI such unfettered access to your repository

    So 1) we absolutely know people are much stupider than that. and 2) doing exactly that has widely been observed.

  • They’re even worse for the environment than AI

    ...no. Likely not even close. You're really saying that the likely ~10% of the world population playing video games an hour a day on average (admitted total guess but it cannot be super high) is going to exceed a technology that is getting shoehorned into literally everything? You cannot even search the internet anymore without these GPUs heating up to run AI for you whether you want it or not. Web searches are something any connected person does. You can hardly type a sentence these days without AI software running in the background. And that's all only going to increase.

    If the attitude is "fuck it we're doomed regardless" then there's no societal problem anyone can convince you to care about. I feel that way too sometimes but it really isn't helping anything. It might be hard to contain that feeling for you, but I hope that changes. It overwhelms me a lot too. But I do hope we can fight that feeling off long enough to turn some key things around. The only hope we've got is to fight that fight.