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  • Gun laws are probably not going to matter if the guns are still available. You gotta get rid of the guns as well. And also the poverty of course.

    Which will never happen, there are like 500 million guns in civ hands now. That box is open and will never be closed. And please don't point to Australia's buyback because only 60% turned in their firearms which at the time were only around 1mil in civ hands, which are now around 3mil in civilian hands. So they have more guns owned by more people since the ban/buyback.

    But would you oppose my knife argument? Say there are no guns. Ever. Anywhere. What would happen in the streets? Would there be as much killing?

    Same conditions we have now? Yea...you do realize that around 4k people a year are murdered with knives/blunt objects right? It's right up there with the number of murders with guns that don't include gangs or police. End of the day, violence happens because our society is broken, not because of a tool that's accessible.

  • Brazil and Mexico both have some of the strictest gun laws in the world. Basically civs are banned from owning firearms, but their homicide rates are 10 fold ours. A lot of countries in Africa are the same way.

    The guns are just the tool used. You solve the why and overall violence will plummet.

  • Think of it this way. The majority of our gun deaths are from suicides, then the next largest amount is from gang/drug violence, after that it's police (on average 1k a year) then it's the rest. Meaning that around 4k deaths a year are from literally everything else (domestic/robberies/random acts). We don't really have a gun problem, we have an issue with our society. 99.99999999% of all firearms in civ hands have never been used to harm another person.

    Poverty creates the violence, lack of education, lack of social support, lack of opportunities, lack of healthcare. If we fixed those things, our guns violence would plummet overnight. But the owners of this country would rather have us fighting each other than them.

  • Do remember that we have no registry, which means that number is self reported and it's just a educated guess. Myself and many others buy private sales. I've never purchased from a FFL or online. Everything I own is purchased from private owners in my state. I don't fall into that 40%. With trump in power, many new owners are buying locally as well and many on the left are now armed.

    Some of us put ownership around 50% at this point.

  • Around 40% in the USA own at least one firearm. It's probably higher now since trump is back in power.

  • I think the cracks are starting to show daily at this point. Didn't Oracle get denied funds from banks when they went to fund more DCs?

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  • It's not propaganda lol, the fuck are you on. Countries leaders and their economics like the USA because it created stability in global markets.

    You're naive as fuck if you think this isn't true... it's literally been like this for nearly a century.

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  • Yea because I'm the one suggesting that the great depression only effected the USA...lol

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  • What part of the spanish-american war are you not getting? The US was already a powerhouse at that point. It's why it's in the article. WW2 just made us become the world police.

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  • You are correct, but that isn't negating my point

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  • Where did I say it was? Reading comprehension is terrible in this thread

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  • And this again makes my point invalid how? Most of you seem to think empires magically gained their power via holding hands with everyone.

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  • Yep...around the same time as...o yea trump1

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  • Where did I say that it's not? Our military and economic power is the reason for the why it's used. Doesn't make what I've said wrong.

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  • The great depression effected the entire globe. Fucking hell you people are ignorant as fuck with history.

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  • Brave assumption, there might be some people outside the US who like them, but I guess that's true for all countries. I for my part started hating the US, it's such a bad development for humanity, since capitalism/oligarchy takes over. Even China starts to look good in comparison...

    The word liked is used here in the terms of economic stability. Plenty of people hate the US and want it out of their countries, but it does provide protection that a lot of countries want.

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    Just LOL. Probably the force that causes the biggest global instability. Do I have to mention Iran as most recent event?

    Prior to the turnip, there is a reason that the USD is the worlds reserve currency. This is just a fact.

    There might've been a period where that might've been true, but it certainly isn't anymore.

    Never said it was, the turnip in charge has done more to damage our allies and reputation in the last year than the last 50 years of wars.

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  • As in why? It's because we dump a massive amount of money into our military might and play world police. The majority of us want out, but we've created a monster that everyone hates but relies on.

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  • And this negates my point how? Or was that to back up my point?