Sure thing...you keep spewing that russian propaganda...
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Tankie logic.
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Yea... we're done here.
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https://hexbear.net/post/228858
Good, fuck Ukraine and their victim bullshit, the entire USSR was affected by the Soviet Famine of the 1930s, and relative to their population it wasn't even the Ukrainians, but the people of Kazakhstan that lost the most people, yet you never hear them be this fucking obnoxious and claim they were "genocided". The "Holodomor" was not a genocide, it's Nazi propaganda.
You're blind if you think they're pro-ukrainian there.
It takes 2 seconds to find shit like this all over hexbear.
Hexbear is trash and a stain on the fediverse. They give it a bad name and is why the mass majority of instances have defederated from them.
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https://hexbear.net/post/253926
I dunno what instance you think I'm talking about but literally hexbear users saying shit like:
"(but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia's invasion had anything to do with that really)."
Is not pro Ukrainian, it's russian propaganda.
You might need to check and see if the hexbear I'm talking about is the same one you are thinking of.
I'm not here discussing your support for Ukrainians, I have family in Ukraine, so thank you for taking refugees in.
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Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don't think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.
That's not the point, it's great they're doing something good but they spread intolerance via propaganda from authoritarian countries.
In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don't want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don't want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government's policy without hating on Iranian people.
You must be blind then, because.ml and hexbear are both massive voices on Ukraine being filled with Nazis and it should be wiped out and returned to russia. The only reason they hate what Israel is doing is because Israel is backed by the west, which they hate.
Would you be here saying how great it is for a white supremacists group raising funds for something? Probably not.
Tolerance of the intolerant must not be allowed.
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Let me know when they'll do a fundraiser for Ukraine...
Edit: the tankies are here to brigade this thread... someone lit the fires of hexbear lol
True libertarians are. Companies shouldn't get tax payer bailouts.
This is the correct answer. Unless you're just wanting to learn networking. Blocking outbound on shit that doesn't need it, and having a dmz if you're really really wanting to host outside of your environment is the best way. If someone is in your environment, vlans aren't going to stop them.
Yea I just noticed after I posted...
The amount of that shit that was going on even here showed it worked. Pretty much all of those accounts are silent now. Shows you how the russian bots poisoned the election.
USPS is underfunded and understaffed. This is exactly why he wants to dump this on them. It's so votes don't make it in time.
Payday 2 (dunno about 3 since it's been called out for being a phone it home version of 2) but yea... you're %100 not the good guy at all. You're a thief robbing banks and peoples homes.
Same, I think that's why it never was big, everyone just saw it as another 3rd person COD shooter. I played the game like 5 years after it was released and was totally blown away by the story. It's mediocre gameplay but the story is so damn good.
Naa man, I've noticed it too. I think it's because there are a lot of tankies realizing that they're getting blocked by everyone else, so they jump to another instance to start all over. I have a lot more db0 users labeled as tankies, now than in the past.
Why is that not relevant? It's poverty and guns in combination.
Because Mexico has basically banned citizens from owning guns there. It's nearly impossible to own them, unless you're wealthy. And that's the end goal of anti-gun groups. Ban the guns because they cause the violence and not society. But Mexico is an example of the guns are banned but society is still violent.
Can you explain more how it's the "same shit"? What does the nuance actually provide? I don't get it. Why exactly does people in gangs killing each other due to poverty and gun availability differ from other people killing each other due to poverty and gun availability? Serious question.
Because it's used as propaganda to get people to believe that crime is actually worse than it really is. It's like when Republicans point out how Chicago is a death hole, and that it's riddled with gangs. And no one should go to that blue city, they're doing it because it's propaganda to their side. They want red voters to go "yea, blue votes = unsafe cities". When you and I know that Chicago as a whole is very safe, it's certain areas with gang violence that skew the statistics to make it seem like it's a hell hole. It's all about the nuance of the problem and if you don't look into how facts are twisted by each side then you'll never see the agenda being driven.
Of course, brother/other. 🤝
It's a breath of fresh air, to actually have a discussion on this topic without being called a baby killer or that I'm a Nazi or some other crazy shit just because I'm a very pro2a person.
Cartel gang violence doesn't affect the public? You're joking. 🙂 It even affects tourists!
We're talking about the USA here...not Mexico.
It affects people. People killing each other is the same, regardless of who the civilian is.
Again, nuance. You're doing the same shit as the anti-abortion groups do. You're lumping everything together.
I think we basically disagree on this fundament, so I don't think this discussion is going to go much further here. All I see is people killing each other as a result of poverty and availability of guns. They both need to go. (The availability, that is, not the items themselves.)
Which is fine, and thank you for having a discussion about this topic without resorting to personal attacks.
The more I think about it the less sense it makes to me to exclude gang violence. I'm not able to grasp why it should be excluded. Gang members perpetrating violence are also people, are also members of society, and are also a product of poverty and their environment, just like non-gang members involved in gun violence. They might be driven by different factors but it's still gun violence. I don't get it.
Because like I said, gang violence is not a random act of violence. It doesn't effect 99.999999999999999% of the public. They don't and probably will never be effected by it. It's its own category to be viewed and solved. Ending the war on drugs, ending for profit prison systems, increase in funding of education, creating safety nets, and helping those with drug addiction. These are things the general public really don't run into (education and single payer healthcare are the only two that they do). You're average person is not going to go in jail multiple times, they're not going to sling drugs and be in a gang. Yes members of gangs are the public, but they are a different side of the gun violence and need a different approach.
It might not make sense for nuance's sake to "lump it all together", but it doesn't make sense to me to completely exclude it either.
I'm not excluding it though, I'm calling out the nuances of our gun violence problem, and how anti2a groups lump it all together to scare the public into seeing a picture that truly doesn't exist.
Suicide is a good example of this, they claim that you're more likely to get killed in your own home if you own a firearm than if you don't. That's true, only if you include suicides, which make up 66%+ of our gun deaths. Which doesn't paint the picture they're trying to convey when you point out that their "fact" includes people killing themselves 99.9999999% of that fact. People don't hear that, they hear "if you have a gun in your home, you're more likely to be killed by someone breaking in and taking the gun and turning it on you". Because that's what they want people to think.
He must have posted over on his hexbear account.
Tankie brigade is here to make sure everyone knows that they think ukraine is filled with Nazis...and now Zelenskyy is a Zionist...tankies gonna tank I guess.
Another one added to the tag group.