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Shin

@ Shin @piefed.social

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  • I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

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  • I'll heavily disagree with you.

    All the modern web, using the modern frameworks, for the modern browser, that requires modern hardware, for a modern person... I hove you got the gist just by this phrase.

    We can use less and still be usefull. Most of the web is static. The bakery don't need to render a unique page for you just because you are from the same country. The same way that the news feed don't need to regenerate the page every request, it can keep the old news there, until a new post arives, so clean the cache and hit a new one.

    Notice that I'm not talking about pages like a mail application, figma or discord. I'm talking about the majority of the web, most are static, won't need this.

    Maybe would be a cool thing for ya to look on the small web moviment, it's a pretty interesting idea, and can show that static pages can be cool, even knowing that they aren't the "common place".

  • I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

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  • You are so angry, do you want a hug?

  • I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

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  • My "to go" tool of the day is Alpine.js, fills a similar void, but the focus is on the client side, the botton idea is the same.

  • I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

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  • Fair point. But very little nitt-picky, right?

  • I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

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  • Depends on how much do you want to tradeoff on this.

    The "easiest" way will always incur in some extra files, or unused shite. When I started, Bootstrap were the only acceptable thing, yesterday were Tailwind, and soon will be "what the AI spits on your face"...

    So, a custom styling will always be "best options", but this depends on your level of understanding on the web, and if CSS isn't on your bucket list, leave for the ones that have this on the bucket list.

    (Sorry for not having a silver bullet for this)

  • Programming @programming.dev
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    The internet is ugly, and benchmarks aren't helping as much

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/08/07/internet-is-ugly/
  • Technology @lemmy.world
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    I think the internet is broken, and it's broken at it's core

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/08/07/internet-is-ugly/

  • Open Source isn't enought, we need governance

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  • Are you the original author? If so, thanks, I enjoyed the post! It made me think. I’ve subscribed to the RSS feed but it returns 404 for me FYI.

    Fixed the link. Also added the link in the /blog, so it's easier to follow afterwards.Thanks for the highlight.

  • Open Source isn't enought, we need governance

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  • I'll try to help to convey my message, which for me is the important part. Your comment touches a fair lot of points, so I'll try to break into smaller chunks to be easier to pipe this information.

    I am confused. I read your blog three times and I went to the wikipedia entry for platform cooperativism and there are a lot of complex topics behind words that I am struggling with.

    I've faced something similar until I "decoupled" the governance from software, governance can apply to a wide range of topics, from safety, transport and software.

    So keywords: "people" and "organization"

    I also am struggling with the example of the residence management system.

    You say you self-host for control. But then you lose control once you start collaborating with other people, right?

    An individual may lose control, but the community[^1] gains the control. And a community is composed of individuals. The group effort should benefit all the individuals in the community. Which also include the myself and you.

    Tons of people hate their HOAs and apartment managers. Because they lose control over their own living space.

    Let me start with: "HOA is a piece of shit."

    Why I dislike that much?Because it's easier to lose the sense of group when you have a dictator. HOA should have the voice of all, and the vote of all. And just by doing this a lot change. People start to understand each other and interact with each other. You may have your upper neighbor until you discover that the noise he makes every day as 6am is because he have a frail back and can't sleep properly. This is how you create empathy, and why HOA should help to improve this people.

    But the common HOA from the USA is a piece of garbage, reason why I rarely use the HOA, I use other terms, like "building community", or "condominium", just to stay as far as possible from the stigma, and the dictatorial ways of HOA.

    Also, I don’t really see how a living space management system maps to something ephemeral like software. I think that example translates to like who owns your IP address, bandwidth limits, or VPS hardware. They are the ones that get to say what you do with your “home”. If they don’t like you hosting something, they can cut you off.

    Cooperated software should serve people and it's user. I'll use a different example, which is a cliche, but helps to provide the initial insight, and we can move steps ahead later on (if the discussion moves on this way)

    Uber. If the drivers have the governance over the app, we could skip the next few billions for the stupid Dora Khashowner, and give for the actual workers that does the job, in this case the drivers. The fares for the transport could even be reduced, since the people who use the app, and the people who provide the serve can get better agreements.

    This is governance over the software.

    Also, most users just want what they use to work with little friction and fuss. Making everyone into voting members of everything they use is a burden I don’t think most people would want. Even people that are motivated for something will easily become burnt out when collaborating. Anyone that has played table top RPGs knows that getting a group together is hard.

    The user perspective nothing change, open the app. Do the stuff. Move on with their own lifes. Governance isn't about the people who use, but the people who provide the source for it.

    But this means that the people who use understands that each coin invested (spend) in the app goes to the right governance of the app, so the people that labour in it.

    [religion]

    I'll not touch in this. No religion.

    I really feel like there are problems to be solved like Microsoft owns the biggest, most reliable platform that hosts open source projects, and that seems dangerous. So I am always interested when someone has ideas about making open source projects more robustly free.

    This is a good point in the governance of the software development tools. But yet, this isn't about the cooperative software.

    Now on the meat of the cooperative.

    Cooperative software ins't about having a Uber app alone (still using the cliche example), but if Spain have it's own Uber app, with the governance of the spanish drivers, with a open protocol, on open source code, Italy could have it's own governance on the italian drivers, and both apps could work alongside, in a federated manner.

    Did you notice? Open source, open protocol and federation. All working alongside, the next step is governance. The workers who provide the labour for the app to receive from the labour they already do.

    Sorry, I am all over the place. Maybe this is too much for me and I should let others sort it out.

    I just finished a 14h of work, debugging a very nasty bug in a production codebase for a billion dollar company. Imagine my own head at this exact moment. And yet, I want to make your mind to understand mine, when I can barely keep my eyes open.

    Hope this helps :D

    [^1]: read this community as a group of people, and not as a discord server, neither as a community on piefed. This is physical people touching grass and discussin.

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  • This is the point we disagree.

    Small pockets of freedom can help, this won't solve the global crisis, but will provide for the communities[^1] the needed force. Also, this can help groups to better organize and waste the least amount of money, effort and mind these.

    Doing nothing right now will not change anything, and doing anything, even the small actions is the starting point for the next thing.

    I'll use myself as example, even knowing that this isn't the perfect one, I started with the homelab because Amazon stole something from me, and I decided the that was enough. Now I can see that the hardware is cheap[^2], software is pretty much everywhere, federated or open-sourced (even better if it's AGPL) and the next point is increase the range, for the smaller groups of people around the house, expanding for the neighbors to embark in this.

    [1]: communities in the physical sense. Group of people, talking in the garden of a common building. Not a digital community. [2]: most of people that are in my cirle of friends have a old desktop, or laptop around that can be reused for a simple homelab for a tiny group (around ~10 users) for basic usage, so most of people don't need a Google Photos, Docs and such.

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  • Sadly the post isn't about this.I do discuss the work-life balance, the egregious ways that big tech and major companies robs people from their lives. My focus is to provide a bigger area for the "federated way", even knowing that using this term is already wrong...

    But I mostly agree with you, just can't see how coop will solve the deeper structural problems, will solve some of the problems, not all of the problems.

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  • I couldnt have said this better.

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  • I have never heard of NymVPN... and I'm impressed (I'm using a similar type of VPN), it's interesting to see that more and more people are moving to the decentralized networks.

    The crypto acceptance if a wierd point, since crypto for me is always a scam until it's not. So the moment I saw the crypto thing I was like: "ohhh nice, another scam....", but it's closer to the freedom of nation option instead of the scam attempt.

    But this is still a centralized thing, what I want is the Onion routing, but people invested in this should have a better degree of control, instead of pure anonymous users. But this is the tug of war in this (privacy vs control), the more private it is, the less control you have over it, and, to be honest I don't know which point would be the best in this scale.

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  • This is yet another solution for the money problem, but my focus isn't on the money, but on the "who actually have a say" on the direction, and focus.

    For sure, I would prefer national money over venture capital every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, but the problem is on the governance and not on the economics.

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  • Block :)

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  • Because make no mistake, federated software is not automatically a co-op either. Mastodon solves the protocol and the code. It doesn’t solve the governanceof each instance

    And I agree with you.

    This is the starting point, not the final destination.

    I’ll ask, did you read the post?

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  • What?!

    Did you read the comment? What state any of this?

    Geeezz. This is what you understood from that comment?!

    What are you talking about?!

    you lost me in in this nonsense

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  • You haven't read a single word in the blog right?

  • Open Source isn't enought, we need governance

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  • No. I think you lost the context. I would recommend to read also the links n this post.

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  • What is your definition of “free live”?

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  • Protocol solves this issue. And reason why takes so long for a protocol to establish.

  • Opensource @programming.dev
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    Open Source isn't enought, we need governance

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/07/31/cooperative-software
  • Technology @lemmy.world
    Shin @piefed.social

    Open Source isn't enought, we need governance

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/07/31/cooperative-software
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    What could go wrong with coding and AI usage, right?

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/07/17/a-post-alpha-release-mortem
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    Self hosted Card Game platform

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/07/03/a-table-for-go
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    A Table for Cards

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/06/19/a-table-for-cards
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    Quality gate as a solution?

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/06/12/code-quality
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    What are they seeing?

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/06/04/what-are-they-seeing
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    Learning from a Prototype

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/05/29/a-prototype-a-day
  • Opensource @programming.dev
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    A devlog from a quick prototype

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/05/29/a-prototype-a-day
  • Programming @programming.dev
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    Are we doing crimes when scrapping data online? For example public available music?

    jeferson.me /blog/2026/04/16/when-crime-is-legal