Did you run gpg yourself to generate the key pair, then exchange pub keys with your chat partner? Or did Facebook generate the keys for you from within a closed source application?
Huh but WhatsApp’s server only stores public keys (to route messages). The server cannot decrypt the message because it lacks the private key which is stored locally on your phone? WhatsApp uses the Signal Protocol (developed by Signal Messenger), which is considered the gold standard for E2EE. This protocol ensures that keys are temporary and regularly refreshed.
Each user (and each device) has a unique key pair (public and private key). The recipient’s public key is used to encrypt messages. Only the recipient’s private key can decrypt them. The private keys (required to decrypt messages) remain locally on your device. WhatsApp’s servers do not have access to your private key. However, public keys (which are not sensitive) are stored on the server to route messages.
Only you and the recipient can read the messages. WhatsApp (and Meta/Facebook) cannot read the content of your messages if they are properly encrypted. This applies to text, images, videos, voice messages, and calls (including group chats).
Ooo mb you're right yeah, also when you use backups I read... ok something to look into for myself to understand better fr, thanks for this comment btw
if it has a backdoor it's literally not end-to-end encryption at least, and they say it is so... idk so they are literally breaking the law and we can fine them again?
How do they get the key? Isn't that stored on me and my chatpartners literal phone? You can only get is by physically unlocking it? Show me technical proof? Meta says they only collect metadata, but the actual data is encrypted... ofc that guy lies but then we can drag him in front of a judge. And you're right ruzzia also hacked meta recently by their linked devices or support bots... U got proof or just a hunch
It says Google will already fight the lawsuit and zuckerberg wants to as well, lmao and he says he wants to protect children but he won't even admit fault with victims? Asshole. There's literally a docu about it: Molly vs the machines.
The two companies probably have to pay more than 3 million dollars. In the next phase of the trial, the jury examines the so-called punitive damages. These are additional damages, intended as an additional penalty.
And because of this instagram will also remove end-to-end encryption and add age-verification
The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversation — could make it harder for law enforcement to catch predators. Midway through trial, Meta said it would stop supporting end-to-end-encrypted messaging on Instagram later this year.
Regarding the encryption decision, a Meta spokesperson told CNN that, “very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we’re removing this option from Instagram in the coming months. Anyone who wants to keep messaging with end-to-end encryption can easily do that on WhatsApp.”
In May, Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state's claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents' health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta to make changes to its platforms, including adding effective age verification and removing predators, it said Tuesday.
And because of this trial, instagram will remove end-to-end encryption and add age-verification
The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversation — could make it harder for law enforcement to catch predators. Midway through trial, Meta said it would stop supporting end-to-end-encrypted messaging on Instagram later this year.
Regarding the encryption decision, a Meta spokesperson told CNN that, “very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we’re removing this option from Instagram in the coming months. Anyone who wants to keep messaging with end-to-end encryption can easily do that on WhatsApp.”
In May, Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state's claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents' health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta to make changes to its platforms, including adding effective age verification and removing predators, it said Tuesday.
Yeah we should deffo support privacy watchdogs who lobby for us(customer rights, consumer rights, privacy rights etc) and advice the government and when its election time, check who's the nerd vote
So Meta (and their allies) are actively pushing and lobbying (illegally, if you look at DCA that doesn't even exist?) for laws that force operating systems to build a permanent age API thats full time accessible for apps?
Why not use a digital identity wallet like Europe : You can prove that you are 18+ without sharing your date of birth, name, or other information (via zero-knowledge proofs), it's like a confirmation paper from a bank or another institution without any actual information about yourself. Plus there's parental consent to children's accounts (as COPPA in the U.S. already does), or like by doing verification locally or through open-source systems, not through commercial companies with a central Database.
They knowingly ignore better, more privacy friendly alternatives to age verification because by forcing operating systems to implement a permanent age API, they create a system that burdens competitors like Apple and Google and Free and Open Source software who sometimes cant even abide to those rules, all-the-while meta's own platforms are often excluded. Apparently this fits into a broader strategy to normalize surveillance and increase dependence on commercial verification companies, which Meta indirectly benefits from.
I dont really see this changing, I expect meta getting away with everything and getting worse cause look at the inauguration. But musk also got booted so who knows. But in the end America usually doesnt care about customer rights, privacy rights, or childrens rights ig.
His father is Charles Kushner, the US ambassador in France.
copied from the news:French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot has called the U.S. ambassador to Paris, Charles Kushner, to the mat. The reason for this is the US government’s statements about the death of the far-right activist Quentin Deranque.
Deranque died last week after a brawl with suspected far-left activists. The case sparked great turmoil in France.
The U.S. Embassy in France and the U.S. State Department's Office for Counterterrorism announced on X that it would follow the case. According to them, "violently radical leftist extremism is on the rise" and poses a threat to public security.
Barrot reacted fiercely today to that statement in the program 'Questions politiques' on television channel Franceinfo. According to him, it is unacceptable for another country to speak out about a case that "enters into the national community." "We do not accept any instrumentalization of this drama for political purposes," he said. France has "no lessons to receive from the reactionary international community," the minister said.
Kushner is the father of Trump's son-in-law, Jared.
A diplomatic riot has also emerged in Belgium with the United States. Belgian Foreign Minister Maxime Prévot has called the U.S. ambassador to Brussels, Bill White, after statements on social media.Not only in Belgium and France, the American ambassadors are stirring the pot: in Poland, Tom Rose argued with the parliament speaker after he said that Trump does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. He called that ruling "despicable, disrespectful and offensive" and it would "harm" the Polish government.
Zuckerberg had to testify last week 'in an unprecedented social media trial that questions whether Meta’s platforms deliberately addict and harm children' https://lemmy.world/post/43284616
Huh but WhatsApp’s server only stores public keys (to route messages). The server cannot decrypt the message because it lacks the private key which is stored locally on your phone? WhatsApp uses the Signal Protocol (developed by Signal Messenger), which is considered the gold standard for E2EE. This protocol ensures that keys are temporary and regularly refreshed.
Each user (and each device) has a unique key pair (public and private key). The recipient’s public key is used to encrypt messages. Only the recipient’s private key can decrypt them. The private keys (required to decrypt messages) remain locally on your device. WhatsApp’s servers do not have access to your private key. However, public keys (which are not sensitive) are stored on the server to route messages.
Only you and the recipient can read the messages. WhatsApp (and Meta/Facebook) cannot read the content of your messages if they are properly encrypted. This applies to text, images, videos, voice messages, and calls (including group chats).