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  • It is not.

    Still, it'd be a good idea to get your passports in order now as at some point you may be able to seek asylum in another country if the US is deemed a warzone.

    Our instance put together a guide to prepare for a fascist regime, which includes info on emigration and passports.

  • Pixelfed is like a federated instagram. Piefed is like Lemmy (and Lemmy is like reddit), but different.

  • It's a word with a long history, originating from the 1950's. It was used by leftists to quickly describe authoritarian leftists who supported Stalinism and dictatorship of the state through violent ends in the name of Communism.

  • I would say that having a variety of software options also helps keep one party from having too much power

    I don't disagree, but since Mbin, Piefed, and Lemmy are all open-source and interoperable, none of them can ever have any meaningful power no matter which one became dominant, as each project can be forked if they go off the rails or if development from the OG devs stopped (as happened with Kbin, which was forked into Mbin).

    As an example, the app 'Organic Maps' recently had controversy because the main dev was using donated funds for personal expenses without informing anyone. This caused a lack of trust, and it was just forked into CoMaps instead. That's the inherent advantage of free and open-source software.

  • What do you mean federating with instances that bring endless trolls, fights, spam, fascist and racist material?

    All of the right-wing instances that were created housed that material and those types of users. Most instances defederated from them because of it. They did not defederate from them because they were John McCain style conservatives who wanted small government and lower taxes, they defederated from them because the admins of those instances allowed and approved of genuinely far-right fascist material and dangerous misinformation being posted there, and their users were often trolls or sealions that would mess with users on other instances.

    As I responded on a different reply I gave a brief recount of my wandering onto a hexbear post not knowing they were tankies and getting mobbed by like 100 replies

    That is why many instances defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, including my own instance, despite being leftist itself.

    But just being federated with them, their users come onto your threads and talk trash? But if not federated they can’t come onto your threads?

    Yes, that's right.

    What if my instance is federated with them, and your isn’t, and we are all on the same thread on an instance we all are federated on, can they only see my replies and not yours?

    Yes. I would be able to see your replies, but I wouldn't be able to see the other comments from the defederated instance, nor would they be able to see mine.

  • You keep calling it censorship like defederation blocks any ability for a user to access the defederated instance. It doesn't. A user can still visit it directly if they really want to, and they can move to an instance like yours that doesn't defederate anything if they really want to.

    You are very dismissive of admins or moderators who may not want to take on additional moderation load of dealing with nazi bars. Lemm.ee shut down due to admin burnout, moderation load is not a triviality that can be glossed over.

    Except on the most popular instances; Sysadmins, admins, and moderators are all putting in a not insignificant amount of effort keeping their servers maintained and updated, removing spam, illegal material, trolls, etc, all without receiving a dime. The fediverse is mostly all volunteer effort. To sustain that effort, you want to make the job of keeping all this going at least somewhat fun.

    If you demand that they federate with instances that only bring with it endless trolls, fights, spam, fascist and racist material, it will stop being fun. Coming to the site will feel like a slog, and burnout will crop up quick. This is a studied problem.

    This kind of thinking is why the fediverse hasn’t taken off. We have all the wrong people in charge

    Anyone can be in charge of their own instance, you yourself could be the change you want to see. Instead, you seem to dislike the idea that most instances don't agree with your views on federation, despite the federated nature of the fediverse allowing for the instances you desire to exist. We just don't want to talk to them.

    but the majority of conservatives are not nazis

    Do you feel like non-nazi conservatives are not able to use the general instances?

  • Defederation/community blocking is fully adjustable by an instance admin, just like Lemmy.

  • it would prevent moderators and developers deciding for us what we can see and prevent abuses of their power, and prevent government and business interests getting their hooks into the moderation.

    What prevents that is the base structure of the fediverse itself. Anyone can spin up a new instance, and choose to federate with whomever they wish, and users can choose which instance most closely aligns with how they want their experience to be. That's not possible on centralized services like Reddit.

    If a business were to somehow place themselves as admins on an instance and it became pro-corporate, it would be easy to defederate them, as 90% of instances already have done to Threads.

    Are we to censor anyone disputing such narratives because bigotry is alleged?

    That's a strawman argument, as it implies that any allegation, no matter the evidence behind it or who makes it, will somehow be enough to justify defederation.

    You don't just defederate on allegation, you verify based on actions. If an instance is openly pro-genocide zionists, or openly fascist, or openly encouraging or tolerating racism, bigotry against minorities, etc, then they should be defederated if you don't want to turn into a Nazi bar.

    You think your own users are going to become nazis after seeing their posts? To protect their weak minds from wrongthink? It doesn’t really work like that, and people not being exposed to it can make it more likely they get seduced to it not less. And it’s not in the best traditions of western culture to censor viewpoints as such.

    If you're unfamiliar with the concept of a Nazi Bar. The short version is: If Nazis frequent your bar, and you don't kick them out, more Nazis will come, the rest of your clientele leaves, and your bar will become a Nazi Bar.

    You can't give some nazis just a couple booths of your bar and tell the rest of your patrons to ignore them, the other patrons will leave and not come back, because they don't want to associate with nazis.

    If you federate with nazi instances, they will not engage with the rest of the fediverse in good faith, they will disrupt and troll and put off normal users from wanting to engage with the platform at all (many people have said that the high tankie presence on Lemmy is offputting enough to avoid it, as an example, it would be even worse if nazis were also welcomed).

  • we want to expand the people federated to include the right wing.

    Non-nazi conservatives already can use the existing general instances. Every 'free speech right wing' instance that has been created immediately became nazi bars that welcomed fascists. Tolerating the intolerant will simply push away the non-fascists from participating, which is what ultimately caused previous reddit alternatives like Voat (and Bitchute, Nostr, Odysee, etc) to fail.

  • OP is talking about the software all of the instances run on, not the individual servers themselves.

  • You may want to update that with your current experience, as some of the points there no longer apply, like not having a stable API for 3rd party clients (which now exists).

  • Ah, good to know. I'm already pretty happy with the lemmy voyager experience for just passive scrolling, and mostly do anything important (mod actions, longer comments, etc) on desktop anyway, so for me at least, that switch would be pretty seamless. Though hopefully Voyager supports more piefed features in the future!

  • Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:

    • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
    • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
    • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.

    On the sysadmin side of things, it'd bring some nice advantages regarding network resource usage and page loading speed, and benefits from using tried and tested industry standard frameworks (I.e, Flask), instead of bespoke solutions.

  • I thought Voyager supports piefed now?

  • I had the same thought regarding modern screen sizes. And since I rarely need extra width on a 16:9, the I can keep the side bar quite thick to make the buttons easier to click, while making the top bar thinner to maximize vertical reading space on a browser. With the Time/Date/Weather all positioned in the middle of the top bar like Gnome defaults to, Start Menu on the left, and notifications on the right, it's actually pretty slick looking.

    Ah, that sucks about the window position thing. I usually keep my second monitor off, so I haven't noticed that issue yet. From what I recall, KDE can remember window positions under X11, but not quite yet on Wayland (though there is also an addon that adds that functionality under Wayland, which might be more polished than the one for Cinnamon).

  • Yeah, I get what you mean. When I ran KDE, I liked to have a tiny notifications/clock bar at the bottom right of the screen that would autohide, and an icons only application bar on the left, but since cinnamon only allows desktop bars that stretch across the entire screen, I've had to adapt to a more Unity like layout where I have both a top bar and a side bar. Though at this point I've adapted to it to the point where I think I've ended up preferring that setup over my old one :p

    I also wish that Cinnamon hadn't waited so long to start working on Wayland, though hopefully that'll be ready in a couple years or so.

    Still, as you say, everything mostly just works without any issue, so it's hard to justify switching away.

  • Only downside is Debian 13 will likely forever be stuck with KDE 6.3.6, which has some noticeable bugs on my hardware that make Cinnamon more appealing for an LTS distro.

    KDE really benefits from distros that keep it more up to date, to the point where even the KDE devs suggest avoiding KDE on Debian.

  • That's true, though most of the results for Linux Mint slow boot show people finding it anomalous and try to help fix it, where as with Bazzite, most of the comments say that's normal and they experience it too. The consensus I've seen suggests that Fedora Atomic boots slower than other distros, and thus Bazzite inherits that slow boot as well.

    I'm not trying to suggest that Bazzite sucks or anything, it provides some very unique advantages such as the Deck mode, but at least in my experience, Fedora based immutable distros are slower on my hardware. If it's not on yours, then I'm glad to hear that, but it its been very repeatable on my end.

  • Yeah I dunno about all that.

    That's been my experience across a couple different computers, one of which was a bit weak, and the other a very capable gaming laptop, both of which just felt sluggish compared to normal distros. This appears to be a fairly common observation of Bazzite, from what I've seen.

    Bazzite isn’t limited, there are just different ways to do things.

    I mostly agree, but I'd say it generally requires more research to accomplish certain things, and documentation for achieving those things on bazzite is far more limited compared to mainstream distros. I think Bazzite excels for people either doing simple things, such as just couch gaming, or desktop gaming + browser use and if everything is available by Flathub. It's also good for people who are more experienced or willing to tinker.

    But IMHO, at least currently, immutable distros aren't ideal for the average user who might do more than gaming, or have older printers than need a driver from the manufacturer, or who may install things that aren't in flatpaks (like a musician using Reaper). I think for now (because I do think immutable distros will be the mainstream in the future), normal newbie distros like Mint are still ideal since they cover the most use-cases and have the most documentation and application support.