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  • These are also going to be in a low orbit so they have good latency

  • Ya its going to be massive, I imagine larger than starlink if these dreams come true.

  • I think everyone is really confusing what these datacenters are.

    They aren't these massive things. They're going to be a little bigger than v3 starlinks all working together in some manner. The best estiamte we have on size is v3 is 20kW of power, and these will be ~100kW

    Edit: also power doesnt necessarily mean size. The GPUs will put off more heat per size i bet than whatever is in starlink, and even if it 5x'd the size of the computing area of the dish compared to starlink, that's still tiny. It's the radiator that will take up the space, not the datacenter portion.

  • Raditors. Starlink v3 can in theory already shed (edit 20) kW of heat. But they would need to figure out how to 5x that and keep things profitable.

  • They already run AMD chips on starlink, so they've figured out someway to shield them in most cases. Some solar flares at bad times (something about while raising orbits) has nuked some dishes before.

    Its probably cheaper to account for some expected losses, than shield them perfectly.

  • If starship works (huge if) the markets it can open will be very different than the markets Falcon9 opened.

    Something will need to develop around the new capabilities to use beyond their own use for starlink, but its going to be much easier for companies to come up with uses for it.

    They make most of their money off starlink now, not ISS.

  • Subpoena the ground stations if that was true?

  • They aren't maintained. They're a constellation of small satellites in LEO like starlink that just go up and eventually come down.

    If they're too far up latency would be too high

    No one is repairing any of these starlink type dishes.

  • and then when they die and the loans do need to get paid back, there's all sorts of tax advantages when it gets all settled.

  • This still allows the government to see which service provider you are using.

    That was a poor choice then. They can do this with ZKP and not even know that.

    Like it should be doable where sure the website might ask the government if its valid, but the government doesnt know who owns the token, so all they know is someone accessed the site, not who. So they could know general traffic to sites, but that would be it.

    There would be ways to hide even the site as well where the website gives you a non identifying token to use with yours and be verified by the government as well, then they only know some site is requesting verification and sign it back to you as valid and you return it to the site. In this one the government only knows your using it, but not where.

    Edit: clarity, but also if they put this much effort into the system using ZKP, this oversight almost sounds intentional so they can track people / population usage even if less.

    Edit: 10 years from now - our age restriction service shows traffic to porn hub increased 10x over the past decade while poverty has increased! PornHub is clearly the cause of our poverty situation we should ban it! The traffic is too high! A bit over the top, but the info is still useful to them.

  • I wonder if any companies would ever accept that as proof hah.

  • First time I'm hearing about a non google OEM made phone, that would be amazing!

  • And immediately blocked.

    I'm not against AI, I use it, but I want to be using it on my terms, not have it shoved into everything I use.

  • You can make them biometric and still be private, but that's even more effort which they wont spend.

  • the technology itself and mistrust of government are, at least partly, different things

    I don't personally think so when it comes to technologies like this that can be used to surveil and/or control a population (edit: and especially that are being heavily driven by governments)

    It's pretty much a given that it will be used against us as history has shown us its always the case.

    Trying to separate them out, gives them the extra support they need to pass it through and then abuse it.

  • The basis is its how the world communicates and they become the gate keepers to communication and knowledge. Its like book banning on topics they don't like but on a scale much more massive.

    They're already banning internet content from people that shouldn't be about sexual health because its not about protecting kids its about controlling them and people.

    You gotta be a good sheep and they're going to do their best to make you one.

  • No, we still need to be against it. I said tracking and controlling, not just tracking.

    They are already blocking resources that shouldn't be blocked from youth, and even a privacy centric method would still let them do that, and then expand it to anything at a whim in the future.

    We don't want the internet built on this infrastructure, it would br a disaster.

  • Because its not about age verification, its about tracking and controlling you and making a privacy respecting solution isn't compatible with that.

  • Grok isn't a company, its xAi