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Melvin_Ferd

@ Melvin_Ferd @lemmy.world

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  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • Including billionaires or heritage foundation or Thiel. Also what would you do with this node? Significance matters right now. Numbers and engagement matters. The left have lost significance and engagement year over year. You can stand up a node but how does this safe guard our spaces from being over run?

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • Nothing I said implied this. We're all having a discussion here. I don't think this type of lazy statement helps anything.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • Exactly. This was my thought. I remember early reddit. It was amazing and we all said the same shit Being able to upvote and downvote posts meant anything could be posted and the community moderated. Then it all shifted. Voting no longer mattered other than to be smug and say you don't agree. I look at lemmy and it seems like it took the moderator first approach. It took the worst parts of reddit.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • How is that going to protect the space?

    I can start an instance right now. But that doesn't mean it will have any kind of importance. If I can create new spaces, and let's say it grows, wouldn't the problems from the first instance just carry over.

    So I'm wondering how this is a solution to safe guard against tech billionaires?

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • You're standing on a beach with your back to an oncoming tsunami as if your pleasant view is going to last forever.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • We're on the same page. The people who don't get it I dont' think ever will. But I'm glad I"m not the only one seeing how damaging and counter productive for us to think it's ever a good idea to go around blocking anything we don't like.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • But the places with the most content are places that are all reddit lite. Very safe well moderated communities. It's like lemmy is a place for people who thought r/pics was too spicy. As the OP said, people here are very confrontational avoidant. And that isn't good because we need to be confrontational if we ever want to build a place that can build left leaning communities. If we don't, if we ignore the world right now, it is only inevitable that this place will also be gone. And this may be the last space we have for a long time after that.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • Its the message people need here though. What are people here for?! Fucking bean posts, moth content?

    Its like we've been given a Ferrari but we only use it to go get groceries.

  • Are we building an alternative to billionaire platforms or just a quieter version of them?

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  • Let me rephrase then. What is there to protect the Fediverse from control?

  • How closely are the feds watching lemmy?

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  • Shouldn't be an option. All things should be open and be able to scrape. If every lemmy gets big it would be a good way to identify users manipulating votes or posts.

  • How closely are the feds watching lemmy?

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  • What for?

    There's nothing on lemmy to monitor. You guys see the vanilla users of reddit and thought r/pics was too spicy.

    Sitting around waiting to repost a no kings comment isn't a concern for anyone.

    Lemmy is created to post about beans and moths. That's what federation is about. If anyone even thought about rocking the bot with a post that wasn't related to beans or moths then you could stand up another instance and get back to our bean moth funny good time.

    Lemmy is the digital left without an unseen well funded invisible hand guiding us. At least not yet. You'd think this is the opportunity to find strategy to build digital spaces to fight back against the rich sizing digital assets. Build communities and discussions to reject corporate influence and push back against the growth of fascism. But no. This is not what federation was ever about. It's about recreating the SFW vanilla reddit front page but worse with less people. Hahaha haha bean moths so fucking cute. Imagine whose beans are these, I don't know. Did you see the post where they photo shopped a moth on a guy eating beans. Fucking wild.

    There's nothing to monitor here.

  • How does this platform work?

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  • Nobody was suppose to worry about Karma. Voting was for the community to moderate itself. We should be moving towards less moderation not more

  • Back in the day you could find a forum post explaining exactly how anything worked, grey hat or not? Since then the internet has sanitized that out of existence. Should Lemmy revive that culture?

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  • I still remember all the talk about the end of data scarcity in the early days. Lots of concern that we now have a new frontier that can replicate information endlessly but that they'll try to lock it away behind paywalls and limit who can have what.

  • Back in the day you could find a forum post explaining exactly how anything worked, grey hat or not? Since then the internet has sanitized that out of existence. Should Lemmy revive that culture?

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  • I was just thinking of communities that could act as discussions or KB posts.

    I understand that some sites don't want meta lawyers coming at them. They're monolithic and have other infrastructure concerns that can be targeted. But lemmy solves some of those issues. Federation seems like it can revive some things that corporate owned internet has been trying to wipe clean.

    Maybe the end goal of lemmy is to end up like reddit. A place to advertise and hawk products and entertainment. I really don't know enough about it. But from what I see, I'm just wondering if it's worth discussing.

  • Back in the day you could find a forum post explaining exactly how anything worked, grey hat or not? Since then the internet has sanitized that out of existence. Should Lemmy revive that culture?

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  • Yes actually.

    You nailed something that I'm actually concerned about. I heard this idea the other week and it makes sense to me.

    Old heads saw the internet grow. We saw lots of different stages of development towards the corporate owned billboards that it is now. Younger people were raised by it so it's all normalized to them.

    There's things older people see and go "that ain't right" that younger people don't. This begs the question, are there things older people should be preserving or bringing attention to that aint right or are am I just in my "I walked two miles uphill both ways" phase of life

  • Back in the day you could find a forum post explaining exactly how anything worked, grey hat or not? Since then the internet has sanitized that out of existence. Should Lemmy revive that culture?

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  • What kicked this off was a desire to scrape Facebook groups to build a dataset. I just wanted to play around with different things to see patterns or sentiment analyses.

    Seems like there was this shift or bifurcation online about a decade or so ago. Information was everywhere. Now it isn't.

  • Back in the day you could find a forum post explaining exactly how anything worked, grey hat or not? Since then the internet has sanitized that out of existence. Should Lemmy revive that culture?

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  • I've been interested in methods to scrape social media. The more measures they create to block scraping the more I want to scrape it.

    I'm interested in getting datasets to play around and analyze. Personal project stuff and just to learn and upgrade myself while doing something I'm interested in.

  • Rep. John Larson files articles of impeachment against Trump

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  • Well this is where you normally would protest until they did their job. Except some one convinced everybody to blow their load with no kings 24 protest-a-thon

  • Key lessons from Media Matters' new report on conservative media

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  • 😆 as funny as that would be, not sure what the charge would be.

    Would totally love to see some real politicians step up and demand investigations and charges.