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  • An eye for an eye.

    Anyway, I tried to make it clear that the problem I have is the dehumanization. And at no point did I afford them anything I wouldn’t afford literally any human.

    If you take offense with me saying that humans deserve to be treated as humans, I think that says more about you than me but I admit my opinion on that is more than a little biased.

    That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be dealt with in other ways. Kick them out of stores, refuse to let them take part in society, police their actions (or attempted actions.)

    There are many ways to deal with them without dehumanization.

  • Me: “I’m not saying tolerate them, I’m saying dehumanization of any human isn’t acceptable.”

    You: “Why are you Defending Nazis?”

    Your responses are so far removed from what I was saying that I can’t even take it as criticism, you’ve assigned me a position I didn’t take, and are trying to take me to task over it.

    Good job man, you won the argument you’re having with yourself. Kudos.

  • Just the plain old definitions of human and dehumanizing.

    We don’t dehumanize murderers or rapists, but we certainly don’t tolerate them. How exactly is a Nazi such an extreme that the only way to not tolerate them is killing them?

  • The number of people conflating “we shouldn’t dehumanize people” with “tolerate the Nazis” has me questioning people’s reading comprehension.

  • More that you’re either not bothering to read or arguing against a straw man.

  • Not gonna lie, I don’t know how to respond when it’s obvious you didn’t actually read my comment.

  • I don’t even know how to respond to this without being snarky so imma just head out.

    I’ll just leave you with the fact that killing isn’t a solution, because the reasoning for the killing can easily be usurped and tainted. As history has proven over and over.

    Bai

  • You are giving them the same excuse.

  • The irony is that you can look at the responses to my comments, and see people quite literally say they aren’t human.

    This is the problem with statements like the top level comment. You’re giving people permission to dehumanize another group.

    And the “self label” isn’t even a good argument. You’re one step away from “they didn’t self label but look at what they believe”.

    The solution to a Nazi walking into a bar is to kick their ass out, not shoot them in the head.

    Edit: I want to clarify, my point with the “not just a self label” isn’t to say that someone can have Nazi beliefs without being a Nazi, it’s that the label can be applied by anyone to anyone when it’s convenient.

  • I dunno man, personally I think shunning them, kicking them out of our establishments, severing ties with them, etc. is a much better solution than “oops I killed a Nazi but it’s okay they don’t count teehee”.

  • I get what you’re saying, but stating that it is always acceptable kill a nazi no matter the situation is most definitely dehumanization. I’m not sure how you could twist it into anything else.

    There are so many other ways to remove them from society that doesn’t include labeling someone as something and deciding it’s okay to kill them based on that label.

  • Putting aside the fact that I explicitly and literally said “don’t tolerate them”, how exactly does “let’s not dehumanize people” turn into “tolerate them.”

  • Can I ask, what is the root reason we hate Nazis? Because the main reason I can think of is that they dehumanize groups of people. Yes, they do tons of heinous shit, but it all boils down to “they aren’t human so it doesn’t matter.”

    How is us dehumanizing them any different? Because we think our reason for dehumanizing them is correct? How does that make us any better?

    Again, I am in no way saying we should be tolerating them. I’m saying we shouldn’t be dehumanizing them. There’s a chasm between those two points.

  • Massive problems with this kind of statement. Dehumanization of any group shouldn’t be encouraged, it leads down a dangerous path.

    Edit: “I thought they were a Nazi so I shot them.”

    I’m not saying tolerate them, I’m saying dehumanization of any human isn’t acceptable. It’s kinda fucked that the reason y’all wanna dehumanize them is because they dehumanize others.

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  • Cloudflare tunnels have a zero trust option to them. You can authenticate through a number of sources, including arbitrary OIDC.

  • Temperature control, likely something to keep track of how much is left in the device, and I’m betting I’m forgetting something.

    I doubt discreet electronics can cut it at that point.

  • I mean, if they sell their art to you, they do kinda owe you their art. Or your money back.

    They don’t owe you their art otherwise of course.

  • X rays

    Jump
  • If you manage to do several hundred I’ll actually be a little impressed.