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Yes, you're right. I'm being pedantic. I should have forewarned that, my bad.
And you're also right that people tend to tune out negative words. At first, sure. But, assuming you're American, I bet I could cause some cognitive dissonance in you if you I use the right ones. Isolationism isn't one of those yet, but in 30 years we need that word to sound the same as "Feudalism"
Replied down the line, was my interpretation any more accurate?
I think the other party was slightly misunderstood. They don't want to bundle up social media and make that the only option, they want to add a $40 hurdle to accessing the most popular forms of brain rot and leave the rest alone. At least that's the vibe I got
I try really hard to not downplay the environmental effects that played into my depression journey when I give advice for this exact reason. You're right, it's not easy to fundamentally change the way you think to such a degree that your hormones change. It's possible though. But it's probably gonna need a disruption in your environment that you may or may not be able to facilitate. I got lucky, and my disruption happened to me so my journey was helped a lot
"S/He's" takes 8 button presses to type on my keyboard. "They're" takes 7.
Why did you decide not to use the formal term for a person of unknown gender in the third person? Why did you put in the extra effort to be less formal?
Lord, how I couldn't agree more. There are so many conflicting studies about how humans sleep because there's a fuckin lot of us and we each sleep a bit different. I, for example, can take a 30 minute nap and hit one REM cycle and then go at 100% for 4 hours. My partner needs to hit at least 3 REM cycles across 9 hours in order to feel okay for even one second of their day.
I love this advice, and I like to combine it with one other
"Take one more step"
It's similar to "give 110%" but I don't want you to burn out. Give me 80%, and then give me just one more step. Expand your capabilities in a comfortable range.
For this particular scenario: take it one more step and help them make the decision. I'm not gonna influence your decision, if I can avoid it. But I'll be your rubber ducky and I'll let you know when you need to pause for a second and gather your thoughts to find the solution.
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Yeah, just having a microphone in the house with some predefined voice controls which you can go and change gives you all of the benefits of a Google home with none of the Google bullshit.
Especially now with LLMs getting so big, just go set up voice-to-text ollama session with predefined prompts and responses
Something about the horseshoe effect I'm sure. I'm the same way, I make the best of friends with conservative assholes. They care about family, water is thicker than blood, blah blah blah. It's just the policies they vote for that I hate, which is also why I love just chatting about them. Gives me an opportunity to "know thy enemy" and have a chance to change their mind
Government providing money to create innovative new tech and make it available at a lowe cost to their constituents
Manipulating the prices to be lower
I just wanted to point out the pervasiveness of capitalist propaganda here. They're not manipulating prices, they're helping their people. It just so happens that our capitalistic systems don't do well when someone helps their neighbor because then we can't abuse them.
Now don't get me wrong though, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you the Chinese government does no wrong. But in just this particular case I think we're picking the wrong battle
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I don't disagree with you, and I've made this point to someone else as well. I'm not a revolutionary yet because people haven't been burned enough to be convinced by a revolutionary yet
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We can but how do you as an individual plan to convince Americans to start the revolution? Personally, I think we need to build them up and show them the systemic issues they're dealing with in order to convince them.
There are decades where nothing's happensThere are decades where you don't pay attention to what's happening in the background, andthere are weeks where decades happenweeks where those decades of planning come to fruition.
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A few generations to fix
An issue that only started a
a few decades2 generations ago
Because generations are only 25 years, not the 100 that your generation will survive. These issues started, or at least became severely worse, about 3 generations ago with Reagan.
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You're right, subsistence living in an individual level is impossible. There's a lot of Americans though, and they could do subsistence living if they worked together. Again, you and I aren't disagreeing. We just need to make sure to use the right words. Even if subsistence living isn't a commonly held thought, it's one with a more positive connotation than Isolationism. We should use words with negative connotations to describe negative bills
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That's because you're probably smart enough to hear what they're meaning and not take it at face value. Not everyone is, so we need to pick very careful words. Subsistence living is something that sounds nice to a lot of socialists, so we can't call our enemies policy subsistence living. We need to call it what it really is, isolationism. They didn't build the infrastructure required for subsistence living first
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Subsistence living
I don't disagree with your point but I think this argument could have been more compelling. The way you've phrase it here almost makes these tariffs sound good to a socialist and we don't want to accidentally push people to the other side. Basically, your intentions are great but execution could have been just a hair better if you don't mind a bit of pedantry from someone who has studied debate for a few years:
A lot of us want to be producing everything we need and giving away/trading what we can. That sounds ideal. We need to be certain how how we do it though. Tariffs are a bandaid to a bigger, more systematic issue. We need to build up the infrastructure required to take care of our people, create the systems to ensure our people are taken care, and export every bit of excess. We also need to make sure people don't say they're going to do that (Like the orange and the melon did) and then turn around and do the opposite (like the orange and the melon did).
If you'd like, I can give you a some more specific pointers on what to say to be more effective as well (bring solutions along with problems)
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I can tell you! It's just not a quick, easy, single bill that we can pass. It takes a fundamental change in the way Americans think, it's gonna take at least 2 generations to make this move.
Here's the plan: we're gonna promote cooperation. We're gonna get people to notice the systematic problems in the way they are treated by their authorities. We need to aggressively be better than our enemies, both in practice and knowledge.
Here's the method: (Essay ahead).
We need to disrupt almost every single system that currently exists. They're basically all fucked. Start with the ones that get the most people motivated - their basic needs first, entertainment second, their wellbeing third. That feels wrong and it is, we need 2 generations to fix this because we've been beat down by this system so bad the priorities aren't even correct anymore. I've been using this tagline recently "People in homes, food in bellies, minds entertained and health maintained."
You as an individual can and, if you want to have an impact of saving literally the world and not just America, probably should start doing your part for this plan. Give away what you can, but never what you need. And be careful, because you might need that later. Never let that get in the way, though, of giving what you can. Bring your neighbors grocery money when you have a bit of extra cash, and offer to start a food co-op to make sure they never go hungry. It sucks, because I know damn well I wanna go spend that extra 20 bucks to treat myself and you probably do too. But if you go give it away instead, it'll come back to you. Not immediately, and not always symmetrically. But it will come back to benefit you in some way. We need to shift the focus towards the community instead of the individual. I have plans for the other steps, if you'd like I can go into them. But the food co-ops are the best first step IMO
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No no no, don't put words in my mouth. I don't want unity with them and I don't want to appease them. I just also don't want to reconcile with them.
You can feel free to poke through my account (you might have to scroll a while I had like a 40 comment communist chat with someone this morning) to see just how much I don't want to reconcile with them. There are correct ways to do this and emotional knee jerk reactions aren't it. We need to carefully calculated and manipulative like they were.
Because it's funnier that way
I misread your tone cause of the way the other person reacted to my joke, apologies
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Not with the stars though right?
You're absolutely right. If you search my account for "good ol boy" or "from Oklahoma" you'll find a comment where I gave a more specific example of this. I didn't give all of these details, but I stealthed basically my entire personality for about a year and half with him while poking and prodding at his beliefs in a "curious" manner until he started getting deeper into those bills on his own and forming his own opinions.
I mentioned in that comment that he became an LGBTQ ally along the way basically by accident. Gentle curiosity about someone's beliefs is a great way to change them