The key is to know why you're communicating and under what implicit rules and beliefs. Some people want to learn something, to spread a message, to impart info, to vent, to feel important, to have fun, to perform for an audience, to feel understood...your job first of all is to figure out what your interlocutor's aim is and if it is different from yours, to bear that in mind before get so invested that you can't let it go.
At some point you need to ask yourself what you're releasing people from when there is no (low-effort, low-pain) failsafe individual thought structure to give their life meaning... :'/ so I get both sides...
They fear leftism (even if it is democratic, moderate, they even hate new deal capitalism designed to save them from themselves ffs) more than fascism, that's the issue. Even most dems.
I can see concepts of a theory of a plan of how the US could try to bring manufacturing back and it could work if they had a 20-year plan to raise tariffs by 1% a year and promote long-term subsidies for education and factory/infrastructure construction and to build a political consensus...but that would take lots of skill and discipline...this...dude wants to break everything, build factories and know-how overnight, lol. All while kicking out immigrants, so you have both a shortage of labour, inputs and products.
The key is to know why you're communicating and under what implicit rules and beliefs. Some people want to learn something, to spread a message, to impart info, to vent, to feel important, to have fun, to perform for an audience, to feel understood...your job first of all is to figure out what your interlocutor's aim is and if it is different from yours, to bear that in mind before get so invested that you can't let it go.