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  • I don't think that we should be wary of them. It is only natural that when the whole web is overrun by bots, these gated communities will pop up. It's an easy way to keep a lot of bad traffic out, while a space for users to interact and be authentic.

    And yes, I think the open web is truly over.

  • no thank you, offer is appreciated though 🙏

  • You have a lot say on this. Its good that someone thinks about these thing. I'm sorry that I can't really provide you with a good discussion. I don't know enough about markets etc and I don't want to spend too long online.

    I agree that can't really stamp out openness and anonymity online (which is beautiful in a way) but I think that will mostly be reserved to technically capable users in the cracks and niches of the web who can navigate the restrictions. This is a massive tragedy.

    This brings us to the current state of the web with age restrictions popping up everywhere, deanonimization etc. I think that we are in agreement regarding where it is going. Where you think we should be heading. I'm sure you have opinios on that

  • I read one of your blog posts about empathy this mornjng. It resonated with me and my recent views on the world.

  • Thanks for explaining your thoughts. So to paraphrase you: you are saying that the market and by proxy, nations too, Are still adapting to the concept of the internet. One way to cope with the effects is to restricted access?

  • The internet can mostly die as far as I'm concerned. Just roll it back to file servers again, or something like gemspace. But being able to talk with people across cultures, borders freely is really important. It's a tragedy that all these people will be hurt by the dystopification of the web. The new web needs to have a safe way to converse socially that is safe and easy enough to use for lay people. I have so much more to say on this, but real life is calling so I'll leave it at this.

    I don't really get your point about markets though. I'm genuinely trying to understand, so bear with me. This is what I got from your post:

    Our market has coexisted with an extremely fast global communication network for decades now. Given that the market feels like a quite organic thing, on what authority is the market not meant to coexists with the internet?

    I think that internet access is restricted because of technological constraints, a technological lag in rolling out higher speed infrastructure, and a the lack of demand for that access which is driven by technological and practical constraint. Some complex function of those factors haha. Still, I don't really know what you are trying to get across.

  • It took me an embarrassingly long to get the joke. I forgot what the original thread was.

  • Everyday the internet gets a little worse. I hate it here in this technological hellscape. I have more to say, but this bullshit makes me so so tired. Goodnight.

  • After contemplating on this: These companies that seek to eliminate thinking, spit in the face of agency. They call themselves agentic yet seek seek to kill all agency and authenticity in the users of their products which is contemptible enough.

    We should all be more like Donald Boat.

    If we can't change the material conditions that let these losers play with money and toys then we can at least hold them in cultural contempt.

  • A bit long, but well written. It read like a novel, quite enjoyable.

    What a fucking world

    A world of non-thinkers

    At least Donald Boat found some wisdom.

  • Yes! After winter comes spring, and who knows what that may bring. It is the belief in a better world that brightens my days. Even if hope can't heal everything it might heal some and that is enough for me.

    We are not powerless agents! Use your free will to shape a better world. Unironically: live laugh love.

  • Thanks for responding. I don't have time to write a proper reply (sleepy) but wanted to say bye. Thanks for chatting!

  • I find it difficult to pick a side, so I guess I don't. I am a researcher and I also work with ML models everyday to make things that can help real people. But I would hesitate to say that LLMs have been a net positive for humanity.

    I guess what it comes down to is that the potential for misuse feel limitless, while the potential for good feels limited to me. Technology is only as good as the people using it. That says less about the technology and more about the current state of the world.

    Although I think that the world would have been better without LLMs, that is wishful thinking. It's better to tackle the underlying problems that are being amplified by LLMS, namely: in-authenticity, misinformation and online slop.

    That is why I come here, this place still has some sense of authenticity. Like us, engaging in real discussion, It's not a proper meaningful human interaction, but hey we all want to relax online sometimes.

    I would be happy to hear your thoughts.

    Best,

    A real fellow human.

  • I would hereby like to issue a formal invitation to the pro-human community!

    With the emphasis lying on breaking free from the fake and inauthentic interactions of digital life. You can still have a digital life and even use a some AI, but the human spirit should not be smothered in the way that it is now.

    (partial sarcasm) Join today rediscover your humanity!

    Edit: Preaching to the choir here I imagine

  • I like the term community pilled instead of anti AI. Simply placing meaningful human interaction over soulless machine interaction.

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  • Yeah, had one for over a year now and it's still going strong. You can literally put it under the shower stream and it will be fine.