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  • Billionaires exist in China because China participates in markets and has some degree of private property. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and China isn't imperialist. These are all true, and requires simply looking at the facts at hand to recognize. China has not failed to live up to their stated beliefs, you simply don't actually know what their stated beliefs are because you're arguing against learning.

    China is indeed a real place with real problems. These problems are not the ones you think they are, because you focus on your own imagination to fill in the gaps in your knowledge rather than studying the real systems. This is why leftists advocate study, investigation, and learning over simply relying on instinct and vulgar empiricism alone.

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  • How is social science religion? You never explain this, you just equate any attempt to study a given phenomenon to religion. As for China having billionaires, that's true, but doesn't at all contradict what I said. I suggest reading China Has Billionaires. China does have areas for improvement, but it isn't imperialist.

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  • See, you would be correct if that was actually what's happening, but it isn't. Your glasses are broken, and your refusal to analyze and understand is why you insert fan-theories in place of analysis.

    BRI is not imperialism, and value does circulate in countries that trade with China. It is absolutely not the ssme forces, China isn't under the control of a financial oligarchy and doesn't expropriate wealth. Trade is not imperialism.

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  • If you reduce imperialism to "bad vibes" like you're doing, then you fail to explain the concrete reality of the situation. No, the USSR and PRC aren't imperialist, they don't expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south, and instead trade with both countries results in the global south breaking the chains of imperialism and escaping the underdevelopment trap.

    You're illustrating exactly why refusing to analyze imperialism is a mistake, it isn't because China is "benevolent," but because they don't have the same forces that drive imperialism, namely dominance of finance capital in the economy and the formation of colonies or neocolonies.

    It's not that I don't "understand" so-called soviet or Chinese imperialism, it's that I understand that these do not exist. I personally don't need your approval, especially when you call social science and analysis "religion" and are arguing against study.

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  • There's no religion in analyzing imperialism, nor is there any advantage to refusing to analyze it, its causes, and how we can stop it as I already explained. You keep comparing social science to religion, as though trying to reach a deeper understanding of anything is useless.

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  • Yep, and we can use China, Vietnam, Cuba, etc as well.

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  • This is incredibly ignorant. Analysis of imperialism is crucial because it explains why the global south has largely remained underdeveloped while western countries prosper, why workers in the west are more likely to not support revolution, and how we solve both of those problems. Without analyzing the mechanics of imperialism, and instead just pretend its a thing purely of the past, any org will be helpless to stop it.

    Same with decrying the utility of theory. Correct practice is informed by correct theory, and affirms or denies what we think of as correct theory. It's a cycle driven by practice that helps us more accurately tackle the struggles we face.

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  • That’s like a doctor saying that shooting a patient in the head was a success because they don’t have headaches anymore.

    Doubling life expectancies, providing free and high quality healthcare and education, low-cost or free housing, full employment, reaching full literacy, democratizing the economy, defeating the Nazis, and taking a semi-feudal backwater to the pinnacle of scientific and technological development, even reaching space in a few decades, is not "shooting the patient in the head." None of your accusations make any sense.

    a party that seized control and maintained it’s grip on power with violence against the working class

    No? Fascists, capitalists, and landlords are oppressed by socialists, but not the working classes. More fantasy on your part, it's all vibes with you in the face of actual facts.

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  • Marxism-Leninism is Marxism but with Lenin's analysis of imperialism and organizational theory, and is still applicable today as it guides some of the largest and most successful economies. It sounds like you aren't actually sure what it is, in which case I made an intro ML reading list.

    The vanguard is just the organized segment of the advanced of the revolutionary class, essentially a popularly supported communist party.

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  • Ah, gotcha.

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  • Link seems to be broken. Either way, sectarianism is determined by the community, mods, and admins, like all other servers determine rules.

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  • This sentence here invalidates anything else you might say. If you “strategically” support the imperialist, authoritarian capitalist power just because they are in opposition to a different imperialist capitalist power, then it’s not actually about oppossing imperialism or capitalism is it? You’re just being a contrarian.

    Russia is not imperialist. It has a paltry amount of finance capital, has no colonies nor neo-colonies, and does not have a place in the world imperialist system. As a consequence, the global south aligns itself with Russia and China when throwing off the shackles of imperialism. This is why I say we Marxists have a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism that isn't based on vibes, yet you reduce it back to vibes to discredit me. Nothing I said invalidates my views and analysis, you're declaring that it does to refuse engaging with it.

    Same with China, it’s not a socialist country is it? The workers don’t have actually power, the party does and the workers can’t chose the party, china still has it’s Uber rich capitalist class that profit off the back of the workers. In fact it’s more of a capitalist hellhole than many western nations, but again tankies will ignore all that and blindly support then because of Pure contrarianisn to US bullshit.

    This is also why it's important to study theory and the existing conditions in China, rather than resort to vibes. Public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, the working class governs the state through the CPC, and unlike the imperialist nations that you're referring to here, China doesn't super-exploit the global south but instead has contributed dramatically to the further development of global south countries by undermining imperialism and unequal exchange. I'm not a contrarion, I've studied both Marxist-Leninist theory and the PRC's system to come to the conclusions I have, while you give the appearance of having done neither.

    So you guys are just raging hypocrites that will support whatever bullshit, no matter how bad as long it’s vaguely anti-american/anti-western. So you’re as opposed to ACTUAL progress as even the most diehard neo-con, the only difference being how smug and holier than thou you lot are about and the fact that you really should know better.

    This is what I mean by liberals refusing to listen to Marxists, and instead plugging their ears when we explain our views and substituting them with irrational, emotion-driven responses. Again, you should actually study socialism and socialist countries, rather than reflexively plug your ears and cover your eyes upon hearing Marxist analysis.

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  • Ah, gotcha, my misunderstanding.

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  • Because communism is a fringe position in the west, it takes a lot of study to come to communism in English-speaking communities, as a generalization.

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  • This is unfounded, show reciepts. Hexbear is extremely supportive of trans rights and takes sexism and transphobia very seriously. Further, anarchists don't get dogpiled, those who break the sectarianism rule do. I'm being honest, you just haven't backed up your claims.

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  • Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.

    This is incorrect, though. Marxists do not have blind support for China, Russia, etc, we disagree with the mainstream western appraisals of these countries. Further, support for Russia is strategic, support for China is because they are an actual socialist country.

    If you say we make good points on western imperialism, then you should know that we take a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism, and that this is why our analysis is sound. We don't have a vibes-based approach to imperialism, which is why we don't agree to your accusations of, say, Chinese imperialism.

    I think it would be a great idea for you to actually give what we say a listen, rather than selectively agreeing with us on what you already believe.

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  • I just have a different perspective on it than you do.

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  • We don't cloister ourselves, nor are we a "neo-intelligentsia." Theory isn't scripture, and we don't prioritize aesthetics while ignoring the plight of the masses. I even made an introductory ML reading list to help out with theory. I just don't see the issues you see here.

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  • Liberals on Lemmy.world are ideologically wrong. Lemmy.ml is also made up of largely working class people. Mao's point is not that anything that is popular is correct, but that the working classes better understand the world through direct practice, life-activity. The conflict between Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml isn't because communists refuse to see the wisdom of the working classes, but because in areas where liberals and communists disagree, the liberals are incorrect. Wisdom comes from the working classes engaging in direct practice, yes, but this practice needs to be guided by correct theory, otherwise it's just vulgar empiricism rather than dialectical materialism.

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  • I'm not sure I follow your point. The Leninist aspects of Marxism-Leninism are mostly Lenin's analysis of imperialism, the heights of which capitalism had not quite reached in Marx's time, and in practical organizational theory. Marxism-Leninism posits that we should create a working class party, study the given conditions of the country we are in (history, contradictions, class struggle) in order to correctly identify the key issues to organize around. In doing so, the working class needs to gradually choose the vanguard party, meaning a vanguard party that fails to do so is no vanguard. Only then, when the conditions of revolution appear, can the vanguard direct the great quantity of the working class to achieve a qualitative change in society, into socialism.

    Marxism-Leninism is based on practical struggle, based on reality, on the material world. The point of philosophy is to change the world for the better, not simply understand it. Education is merely one aspect of Marxist-Leninist praxis, used to create more effective revolutionaries, but is by no means the only.