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  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • You actually need to learn the various types of logical fallacies. Just calling everything strawmanning just makes you look like a Raman that started, but didn't finish, Logic 101.

    You're also not worth more than two sentences.

  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • You know nothing about how I voted.

    Stop assuming bullshit.

    And no, it isn't hyperbole. It happened. If you know any Palestinians at all, and you bothered to show an ounce of human decency and asked them about it, you'd probably find out was true for you, too.

    That's what happens in a fucking genocide.

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  • Travel bans don't do a damn thing for people that can't leave the area they're being genocide in.

    Gaza's borders are forcibly closed by Israel.

    So, that argument is meaningless.

    Secondly, the US could end Israel's genocide with a single phone call, just like has been done EVERY OTHER SINGLE FUCKING TIME BEFORE!

    That argument "but we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" is either ignorant beyond belief or made in bad faith to argue for continuing the genocide.

  • Biden reportedly regrets ending re-election campaign and says he’d have defeated Trump

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  • How is that your response?

    The person you responded to didn't advocate an opinion about who should be president, but rather why the Democratic candidate lost.

    By what fucked up process does that end up translating into you thinking that person was advocating for Trump?

  • Biden reportedly regrets ending re-election campaign and says he’d have defeated Trump

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  • Biden's own internal polling showed him losing by more than 400 electoral votes.

  • 'Very troubling': Leader of 'Abandon Harris' movement now anxious about Trump appointees

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  • You got called out for being a Nazi.

    right back at you pal. Go ahead and throw your temper tantrum, but know that come 2028

    won't happen. you guys seriously don't fucking get it do you? I can't even imagine being so shortsighted that I can't even see what the fuck is happening in the next six weeks.

    either way, start acting like you're in a coalition, because thats reality whether you like it or not.

    I've always, ALWAYS, held firm that the US should be a protector of the disenfranchised or unprotected. after this election I realized I was wrong.

    We don't have to do anything of the sort. My charity is empty. My sympathy is gone. At this point, I'm focused 100% on fixing America and American interests.

    If people in some far off land have to die so that we can give LGBTQA+ people a place to feel safe so be it.

    If non-Americans have to die to protect the interests that empower America so that my kids can grow up in prosperity I will vote to kill them every single time now.

    Make no mistake, it's not out of a sense of national pride. it's not from a source of hatred or prejudice. I will protect my national interests because I have been given no other choice but to impose American authority because American ideals are being eroded and attacked by those who beg for help.

    you're drowning in a sea of hatred, and I refuse to let you take me with you.

    I don't hate you, I just don't care about you unless you're American or support American interests.

    It was so bad that the mod, someone I would personally describe as a right wing Democrat, was pointing out that it was fascist speech.

    You did say:

    "If non-Americans have to die to protect the interests that empower America so that my kids can grow up in prosperity I will vote to kill them every single time now."

    To which I respond "Well, if the jack-boot fits..."

    If you don't want to be called a Nazi, you need to stop making fascist statements and this quote is LITERALLY fascist.

    You also weren't trolling. That is a hilarious after the fact ego preserving rationalization.

  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • I really can't understand this comment.

    Are you saying that criticizing the genocide would not have brought in young voters?

  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • You know why I don't criticize Trump?

    Because he's Trump.

    The enemy has no reason to listen to your criticism. They're the enemy. That's one of the reasons they are the enemy.

    I'm going to criticize the people on my side that do everything they can to lose, and criticize them when they try to appeal to the enemies base to win by moving closer to the enemies position.

    Nothing about this is hard to understand, and I think the only reason you pretend not to is to lessen legitimate criticism against the people on your side that did all of that and then still lost

    The people responsible for that loss? The campaign consults and contractors that drove the decisions that lead to this loss got most of the astoundingly large amounts of money the Harris campaign raised, and are trying to make sure they get more by getting hired again.

    These are the people you are protecting with your arguments. It's not LGBTQ people. It's not minorities.

    You're protecting the people who got paid large amounts of money to do one job, win the election. And they don't want to be blamed for the loss.

    And thus you go around calling other people shills, which is just ironic.

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  • They didn't answer the question. Or they answered only the bit that backs their point and ignored the question.

    How many people didn't vote is the more important metric here.

    Also using the phrase sea lioning for people pointing out that genociding a requisite party of a winning coalition in a swing state is bad electoral strategy is both pathetically sad, and disgusting.

    Genocide is not something that can be sea looked, and if you think it is then you're perfectly fine with genocide.

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  • Having your entire extended family disappeared over a period of a month is not significantly better than having them disappeared over a course of a day.

    That isn't hyperbole.

    I personally know 2 people that that happened too.

    Expecting people to vote for the people that did that to them, and then getting mad at them when they don't vote is some of the stupidest "I don't have empathy and don't even want to try imagining myself in their position, even though I'm going to say I did." bullshit ever.

  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • Did I?

    You don't know how I voted.

    People everywhere were pointing out what an insane political tactic backing it was, along with the fact that it was certain to cost the Democrats the election.

    Accusing people that point out that what they said would happen did happen of being the cause of the failure of the DNC is some of the weirdest Stockholm syndrome shit I've seen.

    All to protect the people responsible for the current situation.

  • Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves

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  • Nobody nominated her.

    That was part of the problem. They cheated on the primary (look at the number of States that didn't have other Democratic candidates other than Joe Biden, even though candidates meet all the requirements.)

    And then, Biden resigns and instead of having any form of Democratic process over who the DNC would chose, Biden just says it would be Harris.

    This from the same guy that the DNC knew, and covered up, wasn't there mentally since 2021:

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839

    But yeah, no one nominated Harris.

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  • Wahhh, they didn't cater directly to me for literally no reason as I'm not part of any significant voting bloc. Why would they personally attack me like that?

    That's a lot of interesting ways to avoid saying the Democratic party, through the mechanisms of the US government, directly funded, gave intelligence to, aided and supported a terrorist government committing the first live steamed genocide.

    Maybe you didn't pay attention. Maybe you weren't aware that was happening.

    But it was.

    And others were paying attention.

    You don't get to fake quote someone like that and not mention the word Genocide without everyone knowing you are intentionally avoiding the word, and why.

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  • I didn't call you one.

    I'm identifying you as one when you are explicitly saying you are one based upon your comments.

    If you don't want people to correctly identify you as a Nazi, you need to learn what the Nazis believed and not believe those things.

    In other words, you need to stop being a Nazi.

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  • The genocide that was already happening was already a mile too far.

    Genocide is binary.

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  • so those protests didn't mean anything? what about the people who lost their jobs or positions?

    So they exist now? That wasn't what you said earlier:

    where? show me proof of this actually happening. I doubt you can find a shred of it anywhere because it's absolute bullshit. edit: yeah didn't think you could. BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED

    That's a pretty meth head head thing to post, isn't it?

    So, which is it?

    Did protestors lose their jobs and educations or did they not?

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  • Okay, Nazi.

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  • This is literal Nazi speech.

    I think the problem is that we teach that Nazi's are bad, but don't teach about their ideological positions.

    Then we get people like you that hit the wall of cognitive dissonance when you hear your views are literally fascist. But fascists are bad. And you're good, right?

    And then we have the mental breakdowns and tantrums that you're giving us. That's the cognitive dissonance.

    Same with that comment you made daring people post links proving that people suffered major consequences for their protesting and you preemptively edited it to say that they couldn't.

    Then they do, because it was a frequent and common occurrence and you don't respond because you can't admit, even to yourself, that they were right while their evidence is staring you in the face.

    EDIT: fucking Nazi.