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  • Apologies for the confusion, I am not accusing you personally of participating in the previous wave of transphobic remarks

    I am explaining to you that you are the result of their talking points. Quite literally. Similar to how widespread homophobia evolved into more focussed transphobia in recent times as homosexuality became obviously less acceptable. (All of the exact same talking points that used to apply to gay people now are used for trans people (they’re violent, they’re going after your kids, etc.))

    So when I say “you now concede”, this is not to imply that your point of view has per se personally changed, but rather to highlight the absurdity of the history of your point (absolutist biological binaries) in the context from which it came.

    What was once immutably “literally the field of biology” (XX & XY) was in the course of this modern conversation openly conceded, only for you to use the same incorrect logic to assert a new so called immutable truth. It is the latest in a long chain of “immutable truths” that have been disproven.

    If you incorrectly believe you are not a part of that chain, it is because you don’t realize your “truth” was not delivered to you by scientists, but by transphobes. Biologists were confused and surprised when this new discourse took off.

    Your point is invalid because you're talking about how sex came to be.

    bzzzzzt wrong! This is the type of stuff I’m talking about lol. You see “evolutionary biologists” (and I assume skip over half the other words I say? Baffling) and you assume we are discussing the distant past. Evolution hasn’t stopped. Literally the first sentence of my original post cements the reality that people are born today which defy your “UNBREAKABLE LAWS OF BIOLOGY”, yet are categorized incorrectly. By you. Because you have no idea what you’re talking about

    Why is it so favored?

    Literally go look at the meme again lol. Your perspective is totally backwards. You’re asking the wrong questions. It’s like saying the ocean only contains water. We show you the fish and you say “Irrelevant; fish are mostly made of water.”

    It’s nonsensical. To its core. I hope one day you grow capable of turning back from the path you now walk.

    p.s. here’s what real biologists are saying, btw. It’s the complete opposite of what you’re saying. Found that very interesting. Have fun cherry picking!

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37156506/

  • There's no "you openly concede"

    Listen buddy, you’ve obviously had a busy couple of days with your science themed transphobic tirade, so I understand it can be hard to remember all the things you yourself wrote. I know it might feel like a lifetime has passed, but this is actually you from only from two comments ago:

    Sex is determined in humans by chromosomes (and is rather messy, as you note).

    Look at you. You were so young. It feels like just yesterday you were openly conceding that chromosomal arrangement is not binary, but rather, “messy”

    Then, given your ridiculous non sequitur dismissal of my point, I’m willing to accept that perhaps you simply misunderstood what I wrote, similar to how you misunderstand “literally the entire field of biology”.

    Out of curiosity, do you assume nobody on this website is or is friends with a biologist?

  • I agree, and actually I noted the similar effects of social media on people’s minds in general.

    Right like at the most fundamental level, the main issue lies not in the inherent nature of a tool but in how it’s applied. Just as you noted with video content, you can either rot your mind with shorts or prune your algorithm to do amazing things for you like help you learn an instrument.

    When you view tools merely as an input/output system like this, the nature of the tool itself is not relevant. There would be utterly no difference in this case between performing a standard web query, or having an llm collate links for you.

    Given this, the question then becomes, “well, is it actually possible for AI be used in an equivalently responsible manner?”

    My contention is that it is not, and the people using it for these purposes (including yourself) are incorrect about the nature of the output they think they are achieving. For example, it’s been established that AI use worsens worker productivity in general. Their numbers literally get worse, and we can also see the truth of these studies manifest in the sweeping failure of every company everywhere to realize any financial benefit from the adoption of AI tools.

    The crazy thing is that these very same people will often incorrectly report that their productivity has in fact improved. Really think about for a minute. Their numbers are worse as a matter of material fact, but they believe they are working more efficiently than ever before, sometimes by ridiculous margins of 50% or more.

    With that in mind, now consider what may be happening to you if you rely on AI for immeasurable things. If you rely on it to organize information, for example, with the goal of becoming well informed and making good decisions. You claim to know when it’s leading you astray, and can course correct, but…are you sure that merely being sure about that is sufficient to protect you? (Since fallacies are on the mind today, check out the toupee fallacy).

    To me, demonization has nothing to do with it. When a new drug comes to market I am skeptical. As information comes to light I accept or reject it based on that information. This process is what helps us differentiate between beneficial new drugs (like Ozempic is turning out to be) or complete scams like a recent workout pill that shall remain unnamed that, despite heavy marketing, ultimately does nothing besides causing liver failure down the road. Of note: despite being proven to do nothing, there are countless anecdotes of people trying it who reported amazing additional gains in the gym.

    Just be careful out there, is all I’m saying. To be honest you don’t appear particularly brain rotted to me at the moment. Hopefully this admission absolves me somewhat of the aura of self fulfilling prophecy in that regard. My hostility in general is not directed at a particular “flag” (such as AI use, political affiliation, consumer habits, and so on) but at dishonesty and the absence of integrity when discussing them. If we sacrifice these things, we have no protection whatsoever from those who seek to scam us, as they can trivially exploit us using whatever ground we conceded

  • To be honest with you, at the time I literally just got the vibe they were pro AI based on their defensiveness as well as their evident inability to participate in basic conversation, which is a hallmark of AI induced enfeeblement. I went with my gut, in other words

    Ah, and my gut was correct. A quick look through their posting history just from this week reveals they use AI and are looking forward to its further inclusion in Firefox. Half their comments generally are defending AI tech giants, including minimizing the environmental and privacy concerns.

    My 2c on a different topic - open minded people don’t try to discredit you on a technicality while actively shoehorning you into it and ignoring your actual words. I don’t detect the faintest hint of willingness to learn, either. We’re talking about the same person?

  • You are factually incorrect, willfully ignoring my point, and you don’t even appear to know who you’re talking to, confusing me with an above poster in this conversation.

    Your misattribution of a specific fallacy as well as your refusal to engage in the actual topic will endure as a mark of shame against you, and I will add you as yet another example in the list of pro-AI outcomes I have observed. Cheers

  • I am intimately familiar with the fallacy. You don’t know how to apply it. I have presupposed nothing.

    You can see very clearly from the structure of my post that the brain rot I am referring to is established via anecdote. It is my direct experience. This is obviously low quality evidence by itself for the establishment of my conclusion as a broader fact, and we could absolutely go down that road and start linking to the actual cognitive decline studies if you wanted

    But my ‘argument’ is simply not structured as a begging the question fallacy. I am literally saying that I have personally observed that all AI users I encounter are “wife beaters”, and am proceeding with my analogy from there

    “Given that we have identified a group of wife beaters, and you dislike the term ‘wife beater’, how can we better phrase it to improve domestic abuse interventions?” Does not become a begging the question fallacy just because you disagree with the initial classification of who is a wife beater

  • I don’t think it is, nor do I think name dropping random fallacies without engaging with the topic makes for particularly good conversation. If you have issues with OP’s phrasing it would benefit all of us moving forward if we found a better way to talk about it, yes?

  • The lung capacity of smokers is deficient, yes? Is the mere fact offensive? Should we just not talk about how someone struggling to breathe as they walk up stairs is the direct result of their smoking?

  • What would the inoffensive way of phrasing it be?

    Genuinely every single pro-AI person I’ve spoken with both irl and online has been clearly struggling cognitively. It’s like 10x worse than the effects of basic social media addiction. People also appear to actively change for the worse if they get conned into adopting it. Brain rot is apparently a symptom of AI use as literally as tooth rot is a symptom of smoking.

    Speaking of smoking and vaping, on top of being bad for you objectively, it’s lame and gross. Now that that narrative is firmly established we have actually started seeing youth nicotine use decline rapidly again, just like it was before vaping became a thing

  • Nobody is born with a body organized around producing a third gamete size

    You say that because you incorrectly categorize genetic variations as a failed attempt at one of two binary options. It’s circular reasoning. You’re looking for a binary to sort things into, so regardless of the underlying truth, you sort everything into it.

    Like all smoking gun “binary” sex characteristics transphobes have honed in on over the years, we’re only talking about it because they arrived there from working backwards towards it. Just a few years ago all of these same talking points were “biological truth” regarding chromosomes (which you now openly concede are not reliable sex determinants)

    A thorough investigation of gametes reveals that like everything else in biology that’s paired off, it’s bipolar in nature rather than binary (strongly gathered up into two categories but with outliers and exceptions).

    Even ignoring gamete manifestation in all other species, which there is no reason to do other than to try and make a transphobic point, just among humans genetic variation occurs somewhat regularly. This is the basic principle that makes evolution possible, and it’s why other species have such insane gamete setups such that that gamete size cannot be used universally to determine sex.

    Ah but I forget we’re still just talking humans. Evolutionary scientists reveal that the simple reason intermediate gamete sizes do not proliferate in our species is because they have historically been outcompeted. This fact could not be true if there were no bodies born with a third gamete type

    An additional issue with this whole train of thought is the baseless presumption that normal biological variation precludes someone who was “supposed to be female” from producing the small gamete. It’s literally the meme we’re looking at in the OP: where the vast majority fits neatly into two categories, but if you were to try to work backwards from there and say everything must fit into those categories, you will have deprived yourself of even the most fundamental biological truths that describe our universe, and on a personal note, you will have deprived yourself of what makes biology beautiful.

  • No I know what you mean, it just doesn’t track

    Even if it's, say, 80% accurate under optimal conditions

    Why are we using 80% as an example when it’s definitely impossible for the most skilled interpreters to beat a coin flip? Right like you see the issue? The problem isn’t that it’s sometimes unreliable the problem is that is fundamentally impossible to derive any meaningful information from it

    What you’re arguing for is similar to the thought experiment where they have an airport scanner that can tell with 99% accuracy whether someone is a terrorist (spoiler: even with this level of accuracy, the scanner cannot be relied on alone, because counterintuitively due to false positive rate, the end result ends up being that only one in a thousand positive scans is a true positive).

    But the polygraph is simply not similar to that thought experiment. It’s like “narrowing your search results to better manage your resources” based on the results of asking a magic 8 ball. Which is why it’s illegal to submit polygraph as evidence in court

  • For cops interrogating like a random dude they suspect of a crime, have a little evidence on, mix in some questions they already know, etc. yeah I can see it. Part of the broader interrogation, maybe the machine really is just adding some pressure.

    But for a job interview at a three letter agency? I mean who isn’t aware of the truth of these machines at that level? There really isn’t any interrogative leverage if both people know it’s a carnival game, and it’s illegal to hold it as leverage against them in any further proceedings

  • They don't assume you lied when you said you didn't do hard drugs, but your body did react to that question deliberately in a way that suggests maybe we should look into a history of drug abuse

    You mean subconsciously?

    Other than that, I guess I just don’t know what you mean about that, where they don’t assume you’re lying but it gives them a hint that they should go investigate it. Like, why else would they investigate it based on the reaction unless they thought the reaction meant something, you know?

  • I mean I don’t agree with him giving special treatment to his buddies, but why is the FBI wasting time on polygraphs, which are a totally debunked pseudoscience?

    Says in the article they started using them in ‘94…in ‘98 the supreme court ruled that these ‘tests’ were inadmissible in court. Because even back then it was proven that it’s impossible to determine the truth via polygraph at a rate better than simply flipping a coin.

    My only guess is they might ding you on the polygraph if they already learned something through less than legal means, but it’s preposterous to think anyone making it into the FBI would be unfamiliar with the uselessness of the test itself

  • I got super burnt out on the content in Dawntrail just because it felt like they got very comfortable in their formula and kept funneling everything into it more and more

    Endwalker I already began having issues. A lot of the dungeon content felt dumbed down. I disliked how they mandated the pull-pull-boss formula in all dungeons. Especially combined with the crazy self healing they doled out to all tanks, it felt like the pack management got oversimplified, which was a double edged sword because in addition to being boring it made those sections take longer.

    It was especially disappointing to me after Shadowbringers had some of the best and most comically massive boss to boss pack pulls in the entire game (Mt Gulg) and in many cases allowed you to pull directly into mini bosses, or had special tech that let you spawn enemies early (Qitana Ravel). I had a ton of fun learning these strategies from other tanks while doing roulettes on my dps and healers, and then teaching the optimal strategies to others when I leveled my tanks.

    I was mixed at the time because I felt the actual dungeon boss fights in Endwalker were a lot of fun, and then I really enjoyed the extremes and savage content (Although I was also beginning to feel weary of an over reliance on floating bosses and arena sized bosses. I play tank in high end content and I love the gameplay loop of anticipating the boss moves and pre-positioning myself to bait their attacks, or lining them up well for my melee dps players). It also helped a lot that I loved the music and the story of Endwalker.

    I should note I’m also very sensitive to the state of the casual content because I like to level and ~gear every job in the game. So I spend a lot of time in dungeons and such, running through content with FC members, and so on. I had a goal at one point to orange parse the extremes with every job in the game (extremely doable with the uncapped tome equipment and memeing on food and potions lol, it’s really just a test of if you can execute your rotation the whole fight without dying) and I did get at least one orange with each job. So having the ability to have fun while leveling all my jobs (a very time intensive task) is very important to me.

    But yeah when Dawntrail dropped the dungeons felt even more restrictive than ever before, the boss fights hadn’t really improved much, and it felt like all of the jobs themselves got even simpler in their rotation. To the point where I felt like it didn’t even matter what tank I picked, it was basically the same rotation. Like the 6.3 Paladin rework to finish turning all the tanks into Warrior clones was just so gut wrenching to me. I looked at my hot bars one day and realized I had all the “same” buttons in all the same places. 1-2-3/4 combo, then press your big burst button 3 times, reach over here for your oGCDs. All of the defensive cooldowns were totally homogenized as well. I guess I’m a final fantasy boomer now but I used to like stressing the healers out by memeing them with Dark Knight’s old invuln and stuff like that lol.

    It used to feel like I could get a lot of variety just from switching jobs but for Dawntrail I only bothered leveling one of each type (tank healer melee range magic) because at some point, after being able to make my own fun with the process for years and years over multiple expansions, it just felt like I couldn’t anymore. Eventually I stopped keeping up with the game entirely and for the first time ever I’m considering skipping the next expansion launch, which has always been a huge event for me that I take time off work for.

    Anyway wow sorry for the rant, I started out just having a couple things to say but I guess I just hadn’t really processed all of that until now lol. TL;DR kids these days don’t realize the game was sooo much better back in myyy day

  • My old ps2 is actually still running and I replay some old favorites from time to time haha

  • To be fair I looked into the pretentious fashion company behind this and they sell small bags for like >$600 so I guess this is kind of a bargain if you’re into that world

  • Keep preaching!! How do I get involved??

  • I’d meet in the middle if we could just be done with it once and for all

  • Depends tbh I’ve definitely known some seriously gossipy people who clearly spend a ton of time thinking about others