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  • AI’s Unpaid Debt: How LLM Scrapers Destroy the Social Contract of Open Source

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  • You can't "train" on code you haven't copied. That is kind of obvious, right? So did they have the right to copy and then reproduce the work without attribution?

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  • Training proprietary LLMs on open source code is shitty, rent-seeking behavior, but not really a unique development, and certainly not something that undermines the core value of open source.

    Destroying "share alike" doesn't undermine the core value of open source? What IS the core value?

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  • That's the TIME magazine cover, buddy.

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  • Copyleft software isn't supposed to just be repackaged as proprietary, though. Permissive licenses, sure - but people know what they were signing up for (presumably) there.

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  • Do you understand how free software works? Did you read the post? I'd love to clarify, but I'm not going to rewrite the article.

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  • I wonder if the whole purpose of promotion of FOSS by big companies was, long-term, this. Finding some way to abuse openness and collect for free the resource that becomes digital oil in the next stage, but only for those who own the foundries - computing resources for ML, that is.

    Even if it wasn't, it seems that they are perfectly fine with it now.

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  • Hold onto this comment, I may need to delete this post and repost depending on what the developer here recommends. I definitely want to respond here.

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  • Should I delete and repost?

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  • Love the attention you give the community - we all appreciate it. 😃

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  • Totally, but the Disney employees (or the contractors) got paid. I think it is particularly galling when the piracy happens to people who are working for free.

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  • It transforms the contribution to no longer be "share alike".

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  • Mozilla Appoints New CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo

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  • Sorry, what are you talking about? What browsers offer more than a chatbot window? Even Perplexity's browser is just a chatbot window on top of Chromium.

    Disco is the only one where I've seen something beyond that.

  • Mozilla’s Betrayal of Open Source: Google’s Gemini AI is Overwriting Volunteer Work on Support Mozilla

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  • Not disagreeing with you - just saying that the legal underpinnings of open source are the copyright regime.

  • Mozilla’s Betrayal of Open Source: Google’s Gemini AI is Overwriting Volunteer Work on Support Mozilla

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  • Copyright isn't awesome, it is useful. The whole basis of open source is built on the concept of copyright (copyleft), so alignment with copyright isn't "sudden", it is fundamental.

  • Mozilla’s Betrayal of Open Source: Google’s Gemini AI is Overwriting Volunteer Work on Support Mozilla

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  • So what is that, a build of Chromium with no Vivaldi features? What is the point exactly? I can download Chromium by itself already. I'll even get edit history, unlike the big tarball that Vivaldi gives me.

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  • There are many open source licenses. Being closed source isn't one of them.

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  • Wanna show me the free version of Vivaldi?

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  • Open source is like being pregnant - you either are are you aren't. Vivaldi isn't.

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