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The Nexus of Privacy

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  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Personally I think that the connectivity via Bridgy Fed and Friendica are strong enough that it makes sense to consider Bluesky an instance on the ActivityPub Fediverse. Threads currently has less connectivity, and people in general consider it part of the Fediverse. For what it's worth, in a discussion on Social Hub, Evan Prodromou also said he saw Bluesky as an instance in the ActivityPub Fediverse.

    I also think that the ATmosphere is fediverse (descentralized social network) in its own right. So is Bluesky, as well as being part of the AcivityPub Fediverse and the ATmosphere.

    But others define the Fediverse differently, https://privacy.thenexus.today/is-bluesky-part-of-todays-fediverse/ goes into a lot of detail on the different views.

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Thanks very much, fixed now!

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • You're not the only one who thinks that way -- opinions differ!

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Agreed that Bridgy Fed is opt-in ... I see consent as a good thing, but not everybody agrees.

    And yeah, Bluesky's just ike any other instance, you have to trust them with privacy. I think the argument that Bluesky, Flipboard, Threads, and Wordress.com-hosted blogs shouldn't be considered part of the Fediverse is intellectually consistent, I just don't see a lot of people making that argument. But, "the Fedivese" means different things to different people, the followup post Is Bluesky part of today's Fediverse? goes into a huge amount of detail on that ...

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • For people who want to join a twitter clone there aren't any good ActivityPub options -- Mastodon's good at other things, but isn't a good Twitter alternative let along clone. And ActivityPub's version of "true federation" isn't the only kind of federation. That said, I agree that AT isn't an option for people who want to join a federating-in-theActivityPub-sense-of-the-word Twitter clone,

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Correct. Dorsey's early involvement is certainly grounds for concern -- the way I think of it, he's gone now but his stench lingers on -- but he's not influential there going forward.

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Yep. And that's far from the only way it could work out badly. I talk about this a bit in the section on "Bluesky is a useful counterweight to Threads"

    Bluesky is far from perfect. They're venture-funded, so likely to end with an exploitative business model. They've got a surveillance-capitalism friendly all-public architecture. It's great that Jack Dorsey's no longer on the board but he was.

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Agreed that Bluesky's run by a single corporation so it's different than today's ActivityPub Fediverse, but the Fediverse's historical approach to "open federation" isn't the only approach. Even in the ActivityPub world we're seeing more and more experimentation with allow-list federation.

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Blueksy's approach to decentralization is very different from ActivityPub but it's definitely decentralized. (Also that article's over a year old, and some things have changed since then.). But, like I say in the article, not everybody is so welcoming!

  • I for one welcome Bluesky, the ATmosphere, BTS ARMY, and millions of Brazilians to the fediverses!

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  • Bridgy Fed and Friendica already connect Bluesky to the ActivityPub Fediverse.

  • Good things are happening in the fediverses! What's on your list?

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  • It's a good point, maybe I won't add it after all.

  • Good things are happening in the fediverses! What's on your list?

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  • Interesting, my first reaction is that I also wouldn't have expected it but as you say there's a lot of room in the Fediverse. In Seven Theses On The Fediverse And The Becoming Of Floss, Aymeric Mansoux and Roel Roscam Abbing talk about the Fediverse as "a site for online agonistic pluralism", and this is a good example - radically different views coexisting.

  • Good things are happening in the fediverses! What's on your list?

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  • Good things are happening in the fediverses! What's on your list?

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  • Thanks, I'll include something about Hubzilla's progress ... the proof of concept Faircamp integration is interesting, do you know if anybody's following up on it?

  • Good things are happening in the fediverses! What's on your list?

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  • Great point, I'll add that.

  • Why is Mastodon struggling to survive?

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  • Agreed, that would have been a much better title. There's a lot of negativity around Mastodon -- the Twitter migration in 2022 is often described as a "failure". It certainly wasn't a success, but I see it much more as a missed opportunity.

    Network effects are certainly a big deal but every social network has to deal with the issue, and some succeed. Addressing some of the reasons for bouncing not only improves retention, but makes it more likely that people recommend it to their friends. So many of the problems from July 2023's Mastodon Is Easy and Fun Except When It Isn’t were problems back in 2017 as well ... how much progress has Mastodon made? Fortunately other fediverse software's making more progress, but it's still frustrating.

  • Why is Mastodon struggling to survive?

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  • There definitely are some great people there. Finding the right instance makes a big difference... unfortunately, almost eerybody starts off on mastodon.social, which for most people isn't a great choice, and don't realize they can move -- and when they do try to move, they lose their posting history which is annoying.

  • Why is Mastodon struggling to survive?

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  • That was a great comment. It's frustrating because the fediverse should be good at making it easy for people to find topics their interested in ... but it doesn't work out that way in practice.

  • Why is Mastodon struggling to survive?

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  • Yeah, Mastodon's interface has a lot of complexities. It drives me crazy when people say "just like email" ... here's the most recent diagram of what posts are visible in your federated timeline.

  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Ah, Lemmy: Racism and Denial in the Threadiverse (DRAFT)

    privacy.thenexus.today /racism-and-denial-in-the-threadiverse/
  • Fediverse @lemmy.world
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Examples of racism on Lemmy?

  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Examples of racism on Lemmy?

  • Fediverse @lemmy.world
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

    privacy.thenexus.today /things-white-people-can-do-draft/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

    privacy.thenexus.today /things-white-people-can-do-draft/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Fork it! It's time for a Mastodon hard fork

    privacy.thenexus.today /mastodon-hard-fork-2
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    It's time for a hard fork of Mastodon (DRAFT)

    privacy.thenexus.today /mastodon-hard-fork-draft/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Eight tips about consent for fediverse developers

    privacy.thenexus.today /consent-for-fediverse-developers/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Federal privacy legislation update: the American Privacy Rights Act (APRA)

    privacy.thenexus.today /federal-privacy-legislation-update-the-american-privacy-rights-act-apra/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    How to block Threads on Mastodon

    privacy.thenexus.today /how-to-block-threads-on-mastodon/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Steps towards a safer fediverse

    privacy.thenexus.today /steps-towards-a-safer-fediverse/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Business is business: Snap, Microsoft, and X endorse the anti-LGBTQ+, pro-censorship KOSA bill

    privacy.thenexus.today /kosa-snap-x-microsoft/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Steps towards a safer fediverse (DRAFT)

    privacy.thenexus.today /steps-towards-a-safer-fediverse-draft/
  • Fediverse @lemmy.world
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Instances in the free fediverses should consider "transitive defederation" from instances that federate with Meta

    privacy.thenexus.today /consider-transitively-defederatiion/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    Instances in the free fediverses should consider "transitive defederation" from instances that federate with Meta

    privacy.thenexus.today /consider-transitively-defederatiion/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    The free fediverses should work together with people and instances in Meta's fediverses and on Bluesky whose goals and values align

    privacy.thenexus.today /work-together-with-metas-fediverses-and-bluesky/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    The free fediverses should make it easier to move between (and create) instances

    privacy.thenexus.today /make-it-easier-to-move-to-instances-in-the-free-fediverses/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    The free fediverses should support concentric federations of instances

    privacy.thenexus.today /the-free-fediverses-should-support-concentric-federations-of-instances/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    The free fediverses should emphasize networked communities

    privacy.thenexus.today /the-free-fediverses-should-emphasize-networked-communities/
  • The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone
    The Nexus of Privacy @lemmy.blahaj.zone

    The free fediverses should focus on consent (including consent-based federation), privacy, and safety

    privacy.thenexus.today /free-fediverses-and-consent/