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theneverfox

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  • Resistance does actually help, stupid or not

    These Fascists are strong to the weak and weak to the strong. They only have as much power as people think they do.

    Their gains have been from complying in advance, they're actually incredibly incompetent. I'm not sure they've actually accomplished anything other than temporary chaos when people didn't go along with their plans

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  • But that's exactly what I'm saying. There are elephants out there contemplating morality. Even dogs do it, even if it's massively based on the rules we impose on them

    Not math though. Math exists in the minds of humans, it doesn't even exist in the universe. There is no two of anything, there's one object and another similar object

    What does exist are ratios and harmonics, and animals have no problem understanding them

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  • Lol right? It's crazy how far on a limb they go, despite interacting with dogs

    How often do we talk about how dogs want this or that, how they're thinking of doing something "bad", how they look so guilty they tell on themselves

    But yeah, nothing going on up there. It's all projection, they're just dumb animals and humans are super extra special

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  • LMAO okay then. My comment will age like wine, your's will age like milk

    Meet back in 5 years?

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  • What are you even saying? What evidence do you have?

    That sounds like a bunch of unfounded nonsense to me.

    Elephants seem to clearly understand life and death, cause and effect, who fucked them over and where they ran off to

    I'd bet the average elephant has a better grasp on the meaning of life than the average human

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  • Bullshit. You just don't speak any animal language

    I can tell you what a dog is thinking at any given moment. They're so expressive I can dictate it in real time. They tell you where and how they want to be pet, they can understand time and remember names

    Koko was barely special. She spoke a form of sign language, and she enjoyed interspecies communication enough to devote time towards it. That's what is rare

    Do you understand how much more they'll have to say when we crack their language? Because it's coming

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  • I don't think that's different, I think that's very related to the topic at hand

    And yeah, that's all true. All living things can suffer, down to single cells

    The real question here is where is the line between us and other animals. And I think you're almost there - you're on the verge of recognizing there is none, or maybe of internalizing that realization

    Most animals don't often think about the meaning of life, just like most humans. They don't think to ask us either, because we're honestly a pretty foolish species. We're powerful and intelligent, but not wise

    An orca, elephant, or corvid is probably the wisest being on earth right now. Possibly even a whole forest

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  • It is the question at hand. It's a question about the mental process of animals

    The question isn't are they curious - we know they are. The question is why they don't ask humans questions when you teach them how to speak

    The answer is - it's because you're not speaking gorilla, the gorilla is learning a foreign language, which it learned by being motivated by food.

    Animal languages have a different grammar to human languages. When they ask questions, they often do it by making statements to be agreed with or corrected. They might even disagree, and assert the statement again in reply

    You have to meet animals halfway... Well, really like 10% of the way since they're the ones learning to speak to us in our languages

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  • but also the more esoteric, “what sort of creature are you?” And “what sort of creature am I?”

    I agree, but that is the kind of question they do think about. Koko was "a wonderful gorilla person" in her own words

    There's a dog that uses one of those word button mats that thinks small dogs are cats, dogs are dogs, and that she's a human (or that her owner is also a dog, she's convinced she's the same as her owner and always gets confused when it's explained otherwise)

    They don't ask, because they already know what they think. They aren't confused about where they stand in the world, it's learning human categorization that confuses them

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  • They already understand the second order questions though. Why would they ask the humans?

    They know what's outside their enclosures, they know they're there because the humans want them there, they know strange humans like to see and interact with them through the glass. They just don't care, so long as they have their tribe around with things to do and they get tasty food

    Animals understand existence better than humans do. They understand life and death better than we to. Our higher intelligence makes second order questions complicated because we put ourselves through mental gymnastics

    We should be asking apes about the meaning of life, not the other way around

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  • I agree with all of that, that's true. I'm not against calling a Nazi a Nazi

    But most of the people who went along with the Nazis weren't Nazis. I'm not defending them when I'm saying that, I'm being accurate

    And I'm not being accurate to be pedantic, I'm being accurate because these categories of people need to be handled very differently, and to do that we have to do a little categorizing

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  • No, I already think I understood it very well

    But this is a nice snapshot, it highlights what I've come to understand in a nice clear way. Apparently it's a Russia based account too, so it's probably not real anyways

    But it so perfectly captures the narrative MAGA people bite into

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  • I don't think that's really true or helpful.

    These people aren't Nazis, they're just stupid. What they actually want is what we want... To be squeezed less by billionaires

    Not to be confused with the actual Nazis, there are definitely actual Nazis too. But not that many of them

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  • You have to understand your enemy. This is a great snapshot into the MAGA mind

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  • No, they honestly just have no idea what we believe. They don't live in reality, they occasionally visit and make wild assumptions

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  • That's crazy. You think monkeys aren't curious about the world around them?

    They just don't look to humans for answers, they look to humans for treats

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  • That's just not true. Most of them simply aren't interested in communicating with humans, they just care about the reward

    That's what made Koko special. She was interested in communicating with humans, and her conversations were wild. It got existential

  • All in the family: In 2026, a surge of politicians' kids are running for office

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  • Lmao wtf, I use swipe typing. I don't know how the fuck progressive turned into conservative

    No, I meant progressive. I can define that if you like, but I see where the confusion is lol

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  • Agreed. It was uniparty bullshit. The neolibs and neocons are basically the same, plus or minus a couple superficial issues

    We can't go back to that bullshit. We have the political momentum, we have to vote in progressives

  • Newly released Epstein file links Trump to murdered newborn baby dumped in Lake Michigan

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  • While I agree, I kinda feel like this is a good teaser.

    We've known everything in the Epstein files for years. We need to make people actually look at them, because they're shockingly graphic