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  • Isn't that throw up amounts of milk? (In one sitting that is.)

  • So are we comfortable saying ACA is gone?

  • ok

  • See that was a legit question. But your strawman was a definitive statement that you literally made up about me.

    And of course, your strawman remains.

  • Wasn't it you that does it in a mocking sense. Either way you can take out that word and your strawman remains.

  • Yup there it is lol! Strawman central.

  • Ah was it you that insists on calling me anyone who doesn't agree with you an enlightened centrist? Still having fun with your strawman I see lol.

  • If a "real leftist" party arises from the ashes, guess what will happen? They will lose in the election. That's the whole point of what I'm saying: left policies do not win elections. We literally just saw this. Harris said to the left "come out for your body rights. come out for your democracy." If the left can't come out for that they 1) will literally never ever come out, or 2) they don't exist.

    What wins elections is "it's the economy stupid".

  • That was about Gaza, holy bad faith. Hey I recognize you.

  • Oh yeah "we will give you abortion rights" is really fucking people over.

  • They literally told the left to come out for abortion rights and to save democracy. If the left doesn't come out for that then 1) they will literally never show up, or 2) they don't exist. Take your pick. Either the dems will never rely on the left showing up ever again. Kiss any left policy goodbye. They will go hard to the center. Clinton was right "it's the economy stupid".

  • Yes, but the left never shows up. If they can't show up for their own human rights, they will never never never show up. The Dems will never, ever put themselves into a situation where they rely on the left voters ever again, because they never show up. Harris said she'd tax the rich, and the left didn't show up.

    Ignoring the economy is never a winning strategy

    I have no idea how you are missing what I'm saying. The economy is center policy. Yes yes yes. The Dems will go hard on the economy for the center voter. They will follow Bill Clinton's "it's the economy, stupid". That's how Bill Clinton won, by going to center. That's what the Dems will do in the future, focus on the economy to win the center voter. Again, that is center policy, not left.

  • We live in different worlds because I think her focus was on abortion and saving democracy. Border is both center and right imo, you'd be amazed.

    Foreign policy is an example of how no one cares about Gaza or Ukraine (or NATO), which are what the left cares about. The left didn't show up. Yes the Gaza situation is fucked, but the difference between Harris and Trump are stark and vast.

  • So no one is ever allowed to think otherwise. Gotcha.

    *The better answer is that she needed to win over center. That is different than Republicans.

  • See my other response. It's the other way around, there isn't enough left (or rather, if they can't show up for their own human fucking rights and mfing democracy, they will never never never show up for literally anything). The center is the big juicy middle that exists, that Trump appealed to, who actually show up, whose votes are worth double (because it's a vote for you and a vote taken away from the other party), and where elections are won.

  • I don't know how else to say it: Harris relied on the left with abortion rights and saving democracy, and the left didn't show up. The center cares about inflation and housing, which Harris did not address enough. They will go to that center, Bill Clinton's "It's the economy, stupid". There will be no real progress, just economy for the center.

  • Harris relied on the left showing up for their rights and for democracy. That was a ton of her campaign. And the left didn't show up. If they don't show up for that, they won't show up for anything. They will try something different and that's going all in on the center voter, who actually show up.

  • Tell him that not voting to convince them to run liberal progressive policies won't work. You can't play Mexican standoff because the Dems have an out: the center voters.

  • Keeps allowing Trump to rise? What does he expect the Dems to do?