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  • Stallman is not the FSF.

    FYI, DeVault's Stallman Report explicitly attacks the FSF as well as Stallman.

    The FSF is not the free software community

    OP said that the report was "an attack on the FSF and the free software community in general" which doesn't imply that the FSF is the free software community and in fact is explicitly distinguishing the two. I took it mean that the report was such a deceitful and irrational work, presented in such a duplicitous manner as to constitute an attack on the senses of the community.

    Edit: in fact, the report does attack the community, even if justification for the attack is invalid:

    "The case against Stallman is clear, and yet the free software community has failed to act ..." -- https://stallman-report.org/#why-publish-this-report

  • Awesome :-) DeVault gets his just desserts.

  • X Window

    Begrudging respect for correct name

  • Watch The Irishman Suffer

    ROFL

  • the report makes it obvious what objectionable statements were made

    I disagree. The report claims there are disagreeable statements but when you actually look at the quotes of what Stallman said, they don't match the claims or conclusions of the report.

    This is why I'm asking if you can actually quote something Stallman said.

    I believe you're arguing in bad faith

    I don't think you've actually read the report.

  • From what? I'm not sure what in the report you think needs apologising for. Did you actually read the report? Is there a sentence you can quote and say "he needs to apologise for this"?

  • recants and / or apologizes

    Just curious what, precisely, you would expect him to recant or apologise for?

  • his views as expressed by himself on his site are also pretty extreme, and I don't find those good

    I've always found Stallman's views to be impeccably rational. To me, the extremity is instead in the irrationality of those who find Stallman's views extreme. In general, people aren't rational and find it difficult to cope when they come across a person who is. I think this is why so many people find Stallman's notes distasteful.

    Irrationality is also why I find this report to be so ugly: it's full of non sequiturs. It's a product of irrational, seemingly damaged minds.

  • LOL I disagree.

  • did some cool things with software

    LOL what an understatement

  • when he threatened suicide if Betsy did not agree to date him

    I skipped to the section on allegations of misconduct and stopped reading here. They just quoted Stallman saying he didn’t threaten suicide and then the (nameless, cowardly) authors immediately say “he threatened suicide”. Despicable. There is nobody to back up Betsy’s side. There’s no response from Betsy to Stallman’s recent comments on the incident. And yet this is the first “corroborated” example they come out with.

    This site is another insidious hit piece full of holes. I pity the authors that they’re so twisted and power-hungry in their relentless attacking of a man who has clearly suffered for having a different mind to most and yet also contributed so much. Much more, I would guess, than these snakes will ever contribute.

  • LOL I'm not asking because I don't understand and I want you to explain it to me, I'm trying to get you to see the error in your thinking.

  • No. Heat affects everyone. Regarding Debian, what exactly do you think has affected everyone?

  • So then your original question isn't 'How "out of date" is Debian really?' but 'If you complain that Debian is "out of date", what do you mean?'

  • s7e11

    Don't know what show.

  • Not new

    And what do you mean by "new" exactly?

  • What do you mean by "out of date" exactly?