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  • That's a well-meaning assumption, but no. My personal experiences asking for help from the linux community are very spaced out, and I understood long ago that asking for a GUI for something in linux is akin to requesting the murder of Torvalds.

    For sure there are lots of people who start using linux and demand it works for their very specific usecase, verbally assault project maintainers, expect they be treated like paying customers despite getting something for free, and just do not understand that many opensource projects are passion projects with no commercial goals. I won't even get into the FLOSS purists who lose their minds when somebody does want to make money with opensource and dares use a different license.

    But what I see more often is somebody asking for instructions to do something and being told to RTFM, "just do X", or copy-paste some commands into their terminal. And when the person asks for something without terminal commands, the responses are less than friendly. What worse is when developers suggest building a GUI (or even presenting a GUI) to make things easier for newcomers and advanced users going "but there's a CLI for that" or "please don't" or some other response like that.

    And of course this isn't limited to the OS. As a developer, the "just use vim/emacs" crowd are equally as annoying. Trying to get neovim configured was such a terrible experience I just dropped it. Not only because of neovim itself, but because of the community too. "just learn LUA", "just copy this into your config, it's not that hard", copy-paste some link to a stack-overflow question that has nothing to do with the question I asked, etc. . It's quite similar with the Rust community that would love to lynch anybody using unsafe in their code.

    It's that unhelpful and dogmatic attitude that I find is pervasive in tech communities. KDE developers and Gnome developers get along well, KDE and Gnome users could wage wars over which DE is the best. Zeus help you if you're a beginner and get in between.

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  • Recommending Arch to people who just want a working machine is silly, and stuff like Gentoo is kind of dumb shit.

    This is precisely what I mean. But there are too many people in the community who do exactly this. And then when beginners post a tirade about how shitty the linux experience was because they were recommended a geek distro, the comments are often filled with the equivalent of "skill issue".

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  • And it's on codeberg not github! That's great 👏 One more project out of the proprietary Microsoft ecosystem.

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  • I'm not jumbling anything together. The Linux community is full of toxic, elitist edgelords that expose various behaviours which are entirely uninviting to beginners. Those behaviours are also very annoying for people like me who want stuff answered without responses that sound belittling or like a challenge of ones skills.

    Of course there are users who seem incapable of reading a manual and even pointing them to the passage with "you can find more information here, it should answer your question. If that doesn't, feel free to explain further and I'll gladly help you" nets a question about exactly what's written in the passage. My way of dealing users unwilling to read is not to respond, not RTFM.

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  • Yep! I've tried and it doest work. Either it's because I have mixed unit types (service mount service service and another case is service path service serviceX2), or I really just forgot something.

    At this point I have to build a simplified version of my services with echo's and shit to be able to debug, because otherwise I'll just drop it and return whenever I find the motivation again.

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  • I am days into trying to figure out how why systemd just won't start services after another service has successfully been run. I want service A to run, finish successfully and then service B to start. I've tries requires, wants, after and their reverse. I've tries paths with PathChanged and other things I've forgotten now. Either service B won't start because it's not WantedBy some target, but if I add that then it simply ignores the After, Requires, and Wants, and PathChanged to start anyway when the target has started.

    It's maddening. Why are there so many conditions that express nearly the same thing but do so in such subtle ways that only testing will expose what it truly is, and sometimes not even that helps because obviously something else is missing but it won't say what. And AI of course has no fucking clue how to help.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

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  • You've never met an eternal September Linux user?

    I regularly encounter such people online and offline, as well as people who abhor GUIs or making Linux easier to use.

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  • I'm sorry this dude has to go through this shit. If I could, I would help, but there just isn't any time. I'm fighting NixOS and just getting things to work for me. There isn't even time to get it working for non-technical folk, let alone disabled folk.

    My blame goes to the gate keepers who want to keep linux an elitist space. The people that want things to be hard so that they can feel superior and laugh at others who can't do what they do. The people that unironically say RTFM.

    Linux could be such a great distro for normal users but the very first step of installing it is already a hurdle for many people. And yet many linux users recommend dumb shit like Arch to beginners or tell them to buy (and support) non-Linux hardware vendors instead of funnelling money into the linux ecosystem.

    If the majority of Linux users who could actually invested monetarily into opensource and the linux ecosystem, and the Linux Foundation invested more than 2% of it 200 million annually into the kernel and advocacy, maybe things would look different. But it seems like we're a long way from the linux community actually being welcoming and self-funding. We'll have to wait for corporate sponsors like Valve to actually make the OS popular and worthy of interest to app developers and accessibility advocates before the community realises that being popular does come with more benefits than negatives.

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  • The CEO is begging for Google to be kept alive. What a joke. How can we take Mozilla seriously when it's being led by such a person. It's like VW praying the Nazis to win so that they don't lose funding.

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  • You did not watch the video, I see. Because if you had, you'd know what they are trying to accomplish. He says it 3 minutes into the video. Probably shorter than it took you to type out that uninformed comment.

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  • That framework laptop tho 💦💦💦

    Edit: the comments on here really show that 1) people just read headlines and 2) many people cannot think for themselves and will just quote or regurgitate from whichever text they were indoctrinated without second thought. The "but it's not free as in freedom" and "it's not opensource because it's not OSI" comments show up on every single post about this topic. It's like people referring to the bible and screaming "blasphemy" when someone says something that doesn't fit. Or like people losing their minds because a non-white actor is "not canon".

    I wish people had to answer multiple choice questions before being allowed to comment. Maybe it would make them actually think instead of just spew their religious bile all over the comment section.

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  • I've been thinking about using business source license for my projects. Fuck MAGAF and other companies for taking advantage of opensource devs, making billions and not wanting to contribute back or even support the dev.

    Once the Post-Open license is finalised, there's a good chance it'll become my default instead of AGPL or BSL.

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  • Python is case insensitive? Or do mean that it's not? The phrasing is a little confusing.

  • With the current conservative government Germany has, the same that fucked up the country for 15 years kept the country "stable" for 15 years, it sounds like their promise for river internet. What's German river penetration like nowadays? 5%? After 20 years of "investment"?

    Lol. It's more likely that the US will get a grip and Microsoft or even Apple can swoop in an sell their crap to politicians.

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  • Jetbrains seems to want to lose customers. But besides VSCode, which other proper IDEs exist. Eclipse is a joke, Netbeans is basically dead, VSCodium and other forks are Electron beasts,... There are a bunch of editors out there cosplaying as IDEs, but let's be honest, they are nowhere near as good as proper IDEs, nor as easy to use.

    nvim users spend decades and have terrabytes of plugins, helix has no plugin system, emacs is hand cancer, and Kate is a great editor, but no IDE. It feels like the Chrome and Firefox situation, unfortunately.

    I know someone will say Zed, but isn't that Mac first? Linux users probably come last, so also not a great option.

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  • What is this? It jumps in explaining features and details about other stuff, but doesn't explain the basic goal. There are also no screenshots except of some table. It's not clear how to use this thing.

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  • Or, put target in RAM with cargo-ramdisk. Just don't get yourself an overpriced Mac and pay for extra RAM instead. Save your SSD, stop worrying about rust clutter at the same time, and give a company money that won't lock you in and give your money to Trump. Win win win.

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  • As you said, it's out of the box/bag. The thing I'll push for is open sourcing all code. Being able to copy opensource code and hide it in proprietary code is to me the biggest problem. Were everything opensource, I doubt anybody would bat an eye. "You copied my code and put it out there publicly, free of charge? Good. Do it again".

    Personally, I license everything as restrictively as possible for companies and would love an enforcable opensource license that figures out how to make companies contribute back or pay for use of the code.

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