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mabeledo

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  • Domain Expertise Has Always Been the Real Moat

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  • But regardless, having had to deal with some legacy code written 10 years ago by someone who isn’t working at the company anymore, I would take an outdated spec over none at all. At least then I know what people intended back then, what they cared about, what they had and hadn’t considered. As long as the spec is written by a human, that information is surely valuable.

    I see your point, and I think I would partially agree. I guess that, to me, specs need to be more of a live document than something someone writes and gets forgotten over time. I still think that thoroughly commenting code and having a strong E2E test suite is a better option overall.

  • Valve antitrust lawsuit reportedly reveals lengths Steam owner is willing to go to prevent cheaper prices elsewhere

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  • Do you add anyone who corrects you to your blacklist?

    Must be a pretty long one.

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  • those are emails, you said the article. there’s a huge difference there.

    You cannot be this obtuse. The emails are mentioned in the Bloomberg article. Eurogamer is just publishing a summary.

    further, why wouldn’t valve attempt to stop developers like Ubisoft from undercutting the products they sell. If Ubisoft doesn’t like it, they can just not sell their products on steam.

    What you are saying is that Valve should have the authority to set prices for products they don't make. That's insanity.

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  • So as long as you don't shop at Amazon, it's fine if they do illegal shit.

    Got it.

  • Valve antitrust lawsuit reportedly reveals lengths Steam owner is willing to go to prevent cheaper prices elsewhere

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  • It's wild that you didn't even bother to read the article.

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  • They aren’t “forcing” anyone to do anything.

    Then you say:

    All they are saying is saying that you can’t sell on our store if you sell cheaper elsewhere.

    Steam is the dominant player in PC gaming, by a large margin. Not being in Steam is like not being on the Internet.

    How is this not "forcing" someone to do something?

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  • Amazon is one of the largest online retailers in the world. If they force prices on suppliers to get a better deal than anyone else, that's between extortion and price fixing.

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  • You are very clearly out of your depth here, and very much wrong, so maybe drop the patronizing tone a little bit.

    They did in the 1980s with walmart, kiddo.

    Unless you can quote the exact precedent, I'm going to take the Sherman Antitrust Act over whatever you say.

    Incorrect, this is an ‘exercise’ of explaining a very basic fact of capitalism that has been happening longer than the word ‘capitalism’ has existed. This policy is the default for all stores on Earth.

    Marketplaces can set the prices of the items sold at their locations. They cannot set the prices of items outside of them. Doing so is price fixing, plain and simple.

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  • There is nothing illegal being done by steam kiddo.

    That's for the courts to decide, "kiddo".

    And ‘good faith’ is defending themselves against sabotage, which is what ubisoft is suing for the ability to do here.

    Nice exercise of brand loyalty, but irrelevant in this scenario.

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  • No, I want marketplaces to operate in good faith and following the law. Don't think that's so much to ask.

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  • But you seem to think you should or could force companies to be that public entity. That’s not only not realistic and not how the world has ever worked under capitalism, but it’s just simply a bad idea.

    I disagree. There are plenty of success stories of companies being forced by governments to act in the best interest of consumers, from adopting USB-C to removing lead from gasoline.

    Look at the USPS for why you should not have a private entity perform a public service.

    You are conflating very different things here, I'm afraid.

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  • That's insanity. Under those terms, most suppliers would be at the whims of platform owners.

    Microsoft asking Valve for a 50% cut? Sure. Google delisting a website because the owner criticized their CEO? Absolutely. Amazon telling you to sell at a loss or not sell at all? Why not.

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  • Do you really think that Amazon should be allowed to set prices outside their marketplace? That's wild.

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  • This means if you go to steam to find out about a game and then decide to buy it from the manufacturer’s website the manufacturer makes more money because they don’t have to give Valve a cut, and Valve might even authorize you to activate that product on steam.

    Expecting valve to offer their marketing and delivery systems without any incentive for you to sell products through it would defeat the purpose of their platform.

    You can only activate that product in Steam if it's sold as a Steam key. Also, any game added to Steam from outside the platform has no access to their SDK, so this point is moot.

    I'm not defending either Apple nor Google, but their business model is essentially the same, with the exception of the hardware integration, which again, doesn't even matter that much since Steam is at 75% PC market share. And if you read some of the comments in this thread you'll find out that for many people, the moat is not the hardware, is the platform itself.

    Again, weird to see people defending anti competitive behaviour coming from a multi billion corporation, just because they sympathize with them.

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  • And in my opinion it should be illegal. What do you think?

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  • So if I go to Amazon searching for a product, read the reviews, check if it’s been returned often, etc., that should be enough for Amazon to set the price of the same product on the manufacturer’s website?

    The comparison between Google and apple doesn't really make sense as steam provides a whole bunch of services while epic provides a purchase button.

    Who is talking about Epic here?

    Also, both Google and Apple have their own app stores, where they take a cut of the sales, while providing a SDKs for things from push notifications, to payment processing, to analytics. Nowadays they also provide game platforms for things like multiplayer or achievements, among other things. Essentially the same as Steam.

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  • Article comes from Bloomberg.

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  • Such a weird stream of comments to be read on Lemmy.

    Regardless of what you folks think about Valve, does anyone believe that a marketplace should have this kind of leverage over their suppliers? For instance, should Amazon be permitted to force manufacturers to set the price of a product outside of their marketplace? Should Apple be allowed to force app developers to price match the Google store?

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  • That’s not the legal definition of a monopoly.

    Is not Google a monopoly in search and online advertising, then?