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jsomae

@ jsomae @lemmy.ml

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polite leftists make more leftists

☞ 🇨🇦 (it's a bit of a fixer-upper eh) ☜

more leftists make revolution

  • these names change quickly

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  • interesting. Well if people want these released, they better get released soon before it becomes plausible to claim it's deepfake.

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  • I know. It's just still more than I expected.

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    Am I alone in this feeling?

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  • I started using LeechBlock to limit the amount of time spent on social media including lemmy, it's been really helpful. Inspired by this video. Has helped me.

  • these names change quickly

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  • What files are they exactly? Is it just, like, his list of contacts, or there something else?

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  • You're right to question the boiling. I was thinking of death by suffocation in heated steam. Boiling is not the technically correct term.

    Here are some more sources that nearly all livestock live in factory farms: [Our World in Data, PETA,]; there are a lot more I can find searching the web but they mostly seem to link back to the Sentience Institute's research. OWiD's is based on SI's research, and I suspect PETA's claim is based off SI's as well. More importantly, I haven't found any claim that the proportion is lower than 90%, or even anyone challenging SI's figures. Do you have reason to doubt this? And if so, can you find any source? It seems plausible to me just based on the fact that factory farming is vastly more efficient than other methods, and most people aren't picky about such things. Just as a prior, I would expect that the vast majority of livestock are found in the most efficient types of farms.

    Without any attempt to describe the methodology used for their estimates.

    I mean they literally have their calculations available right there as an easily-viewable google sheets link. And the data source is clearly stated: "these estimates use the 2022 Census of Agriculture and EPA definitions of CAFOs to estimate the number of US farmed land vertebrates who are in CAFOs ("factory farms")."

    You’d be trying to get that particular farm shut down, get laws passed to prevent that from happening. But you’re not doing that

    Who is not doing that? Me specifically or animal rights people in general? I don't see why shutting down a particular farm would be very helpful, the scale of the problem is incredibly massive; passing laws would be much more effective. I would like to see laws passed, though, to stop these kinds of abuses. What would make you think I am not interested in that?

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  • I know. It's still more elephants than I expected.

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  • 60 % of mammals are livestock, not 60% live in factory farms

    99% of US farmed animals live in factory farms, according to this random website I just found. I don't claim to be an expert, though, and worldwide is probably lower than than 99%, but I would bet you that the vast majority of livestock is factory-farmed.

    Agreed though that not all livestock are factory farmed. I should have clarified.

    I'll point out though that even some non-factory-farmed livestock are likely suffering. Bentham's Bulldog talks about how hens undergo severe agony:

    Egg-laying hens in conventional farms endure about 400 hours (!!!!!) of this kind of disabling agony. Remember, this is agony about as bad as the worst thing that’s ever happened to you, unless you’ve had an experience as bad as being severely tortured.

    (emphasis mine.)

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    A seal in the 4% living in the wild may be eaten alive by a killer whale or torn to shreds by a great white shark.

    That's bad, though probably not anywhere near as much agony as being boiled alive for several hours until one's death. Regardless of whether you feel morally obligated to reduce wild animal suffering, you should admit that (a) from a utilitarian perspective, it's much easier to reduce factory farm suffering, and (b) from a deontological perspective, factory farming is (collectively) our fault, whereas the food chain isn't.

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  • more elephants than I expected tbh

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  • Livestock have to live through horrible agony, like the worst kind of torture. This means (by biomass, which some people correlate indirectly with moral worth), at least 60% of mammals on Earth undergo horrible torture. Bentham's Bulldog, "Factory Farming is Literally Torture."

    Excess pigs were roasted to death. Specifically, these pigs were killed by having hot steam enter the barn, at around 150 degrees, leading to them choking, suffocating, and roasting to death. It’s hard to see how an industry that chokes and burns beings to death can be said to be anything other than nightmarish, especially given that pigs are smarter than dogs.

    Ozy Brennan: the subjective experience of animal's suffering 10/10 intense agony is likely the same as the subjective experience of a human suffering such agony. (~6 paragraph article, well worth a read.)

  • A long long time ago...

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  • i regret having gmail

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  • Didn't they leave a retro-reflector on the surface of the moon after the first mission? This seems pretty definitive to me.

  • I just get ads for antidepressants

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  • Are Becky and Kyle the new Karen and Chad?

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  • It's been 53 years since we stopped sending humans to the moon. Now we have the world wide web, touch-screens, voice recognition, human simulcra, and CRISPR.

  • James Gunn, Nathan Fillion and more on MAGA outrage over director saying Superman is an immigrant: ‘I don’t have anything to say to anybody’ spreading hate

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  • well, they have someone in the oval office, so they already have legitimacy. I think we're well past one-nazi-walks-into-a-bar by now.

    They were able to take away the legitimacy of "woke" instead of avoiding using it to deny its legitimacy. Worked for them, might work for us.

  • AI agents wrong ~70% of time: Carnegie Mellon study

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  • yeah, this is why I'm #fuck-ai to be honest.

  • AI agents wrong ~70% of time: Carnegie Mellon study

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  • The notion that AI is half-ready is a really poignant observation actually. It's ready for select applications only, but it's really being advertised like it's idiot-proof and ready for general use.

  • Companies That Tried to Save Money With AI Are Now Spending a Fortune Hiring People to Fix Its Mistakes

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  • may well be a Gell-Mann amnesia simulator when used improperly.

  • Companies That Tried to Save Money With AI Are Now Spending a Fortune Hiring People to Fix Its Mistakes

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  • In the situation outlined, it can be pretty effective.

  • Anime detected, opinion rejected

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  • gonna be real, I literally never noticed those before.