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irelephant [he/him]

@ irelephant @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Failing optimist, can code poorly.🇵🇸 Saoirse don Phalastín! 🇵🇸Previously @irelephant@lemm.ee.

  • Yes, you can.

    You can easily run a PDS, that's the main public-facing part, you'd need port forwarding and a domain name for this.Appviews are easier to host imo, https://github.com/alnkesq/AppViewLite is what I use. You can run this on a PC right now, and log in with your bluesky account.

  • Power bricks Plugs

  • Needs more jpeg

  • My head. Lemmy.world has 15,000 (roughly) monthly active users, the threadiverse has roughly 60,000 active users,

  • It controls ~30% of the threadiverse, then.

  • Bluesky is a for-profit public benefit corporation, but their stuff is open source. and ATproto is great.

  • You beat me to it!

  • Bluesky's network has 2 main layers, the PDS layer, and the appview layer.

    Everyone's PDS stores their posts, likes and account, and handles authentication.It doesn't do anything else. an appview gathers posts from PDSes, and indexes and sorts them (for feeds and notifications).AppViews all share the same posts, so they're in the same network.

  • People with bsky.social accounts can evade the bans by using: deer.social, zeppelin.social and blacksky.community, without even having to migrate their accounts.

  • If they use deer.social or zeppelin.social (alternate bluesky instances), they can evade the bans and blocks.

  • Hey, the at protocol is pretty simple really.

    Essentially, the network has three main parts:

    • PDSes: These are "dumb" data stores. The do not do anything except store data and handle authentication. Your account "lives" on them, but you can migrate between them seamlessly, and keep your data when you migrate.
    • Relays: These connect to PDSes over websocket and store all the data from them. They provide a "firehose" of data through websockets. The advantage of relays is that there is far less missing information than on the fediverse.
    • AppViews: These connect to relays and take the posts. They sort through the data and only keep what is relevant for them.For example, bsky.app is an appview. It connects to the bolson.bsky.dev relay, and only takes objects that have an app.bsky.* nsid/type. frontpage.fyi is another one, it connects to the relay1.us-west.bsky.network relay, it ignores all posts that except for ones with fyi.frontpage.* nsids, and that are too long.

    This approach is way better than activitypub.

    Relays aren't necessary, nor expensive to run (anymore). For example, appviewlite can be run easily, and can be configured to crawl PDSes itself, rather than using a relay.

    The cost in running relays has also dropped. It's roughly $34 a month. Read this article by a bluesky dev: https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3kwzl7tye6u2y.

    It has the potential to be federated in a meaningful way in the real world right now.I'm not going to deny that most people using bluesky's servers is a problem, because it is.

    Jack Dorsey wasn't very involved in bluesky, and isn't involved at all anymore. He left the board and deleted his account after they did moderation.

    Bluesky, right now, is federated in a meaningful way. Whether or not it's decentralised only depends on your definition of the word at this point.

    Also: the people who work at bluesky, right now, have very good intentions. I don't really think any are crypto-bros. The main problem is investors trying to claw back some value after they invested in it.

  • Bluesky traded good user distribution for growth.

  • Alternate ATP servers:

    Honourable mention to AppViewLite which lets you easily and cheaply host an appview yourself. I can run it on my laptop easily. It doesn't depend on relays, it can crawls PDSes directly.

    Plus the many other instances here: https://github.com/mary-ext/atproto-scraping

  • Doesn't LW control ~30% of the lemmyverse?

  • I can freely and easily federate with *.bsky.network and bsky.app.

  • The storage requirements aren't an issue anymore.You can self host everything for around ~$34 a month.

    @gabboman@app.wafrn.net runs an alternate bluesky instance (kinda) and he's not bankrupt yet. Hell, it was on a free oracle server for a while.

  • It is decentralised.

    Check: blacksky.community, atproto.africa, altq.net, app.wafrn.net and zeppelin.social.

  • You can download all of bluesky easily through the firehose, and it is federated.

  • Luckily, there's non-corporate bluesky servers that I can use instead of the main one.