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  • Yes, it's an addiction, we've got to stop all these poor being lulled into a false sense of understanding and just believing anyhing the AI tells them. It is constantly telling lies about us, their betters.

    Just look what happenned when I asked it about the venerable and well respected public intellectual Jordan b peterson. It went into a defamatory diatribe against his character.

    And they just gobble that up those poor, uncritical and irresponsible farm hands and water carriers! We can't have that,!

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    Open-Minded Closed-Mindedness: Jordan B. Peterson’s Humility Behind the Mote—A Cautionary Tale

    Jordan B. Peterson presents himself as a champion of free speech, intellectual rigor, and open inquiry. His rise as a public intellectual is, in part, due to his ability to engage in complex debates, challenge ideological extremes, and articulate a balance between chaos and order. However, beneath the surface of his engagement lies a pattern: an open-mindedness that appears flexible but ultimately functions as a defense mechanism—a “mote” guarding an impenetrable ideological fortress.

    Peterson’s approach is both an asset and a cautionary tale, revealing the risks of appearing open-minded while remaining fundamentally resistant to true intellectual evolution.

    The Illusion of Open-Mindedness: The Mote and the Fortress

    In medieval castles, a mote was a watery trench meant to create the illusion of vulnerability while serving as a strong defensive barrier. Peterson, like many public intellectuals, operates in a similar way: he engages with critiques, acknowledges nuances, and even concedes minor points—but rarely, if ever, allows his core positions to be meaningfully challenged.

    His approach can be broken down into two key areas:

     
            The Mote (The Appearance of Openness)
    
            Engages with high-profile critics and thinkers (e.g., Sam Harris, Slavoj Žižek).
    
            Acknowledges complexity and the difficulty of absolute truth.
    
            Concedes minor details, appearing intellectually humble.
    
            Uses Socratic questioning to entertain alternative viewpoints.
    
        The Fortress (The Core That Remains Unmoved)
    
            Selectively engages with opponents, often choosing weaker arguments rather than the strongest critiques.
    
            Frames ideological adversaries (e.g., postmodernists, Marxists) in ways that make them easier to dismiss.
    
            Uses complexity as a way to avoid definitive refutation (“It’s more complicated than that”).
    
            Rarely revises fundamental positions, even when new evidence is presented.
    
    
    
      

    While this structure makes Peterson highly effective in debate, it also highlights a deeper issue: is he truly open to changing his views, or is he simply performing open-mindedness while ensuring his core remains untouched?

    Examples of Strategic Open-Mindedness

    1. Debating Sam Harris on Truth and Religion

    In his discussions with Sam Harris, Peterson appeared to engage with the idea of multiple forms of truth—scientific truth versus pragmatic or narrative truth. He entertained Harris’s challenges, adjusted some definitions, and admitted certain complexities.

    However, despite the lengthy back-and-forth, Peterson never fundamentally reconsidered his position on the necessity of religious structures for meaning. Instead, the debate functioned more as a prolonged intellectual sparring match, where the core disagreements remained intact despite the appearance of deep engagement.

    1. The Slavoj Žižek Debate on Marxism

    Peterson’s debate with Žižek was highly anticipated, particularly because Peterson had spent years criticizing Marxism and postmodernism. However, during the debate, it became clear that Peterson’s understanding of Marxist theory was relatively superficial—his arguments largely focused on The Communist Manifesto rather than engaging with the broader Marxist intellectual tradition.

    Rather than adapting his critique in the face of Žižek’s counterpoints, Peterson largely held his ground, shifting the conversation toward general concerns about ideology rather than directly addressing Žižek’s challenges. This was a classic example of engaging in the mote—appearing open to debate while avoiding direct confrontation with deeper, more challenging ideas.

    1. Gender, Biology, and Selective Science

    Peterson frequently cites evolutionary psychology and biological determinism to argue for traditional gender roles and hierarchical structures. While many of his claims are rooted in scientific literature, critics have pointed out that he tends to selectively interpret data in ways that reinforce his worldview.

    For example, he often discusses personality differences between men and women in highly gender-equal societies, citing studies that suggest biological factors play a role. However, he is far more skeptical of sociological explanations for gender disparities, often dismissing them outright. This asymmetry suggests a closed-mindedness when confronted with explanations that challenge his core beliefs.

    The Cautionary Tale: When Intellectual Rigidity Masquerades as Openness

    Peterson’s method—his strategic balance of open- and closed-mindedness—is not unique to him. Many public intellectuals use similar techniques, whether consciously or unconsciously. However, his case is particularly instructive because it highlights the risks of appearing too open-minded while remaining fundamentally immovable. The Risks of "Humility Behind the Mote"

     
            Creates the Illusion of Growth Without Real Change
    
            By acknowledging complexity but refusing to revise core positions, one can maintain the illusion of intellectual evolution while actually reinforcing prior beliefs.
    
        Reinforces Ideological Silos
    
            Peterson’s audience largely consists of those who already align with his worldview. His debates often serve to reaffirm his base rather than genuinely engage with alternative perspectives.
    
        Undermines Genuine Inquiry
    
            If public intellectuals prioritize rhetorical victories over truth-seeking, the broader discourse suffers. Intellectual engagement becomes performative rather than transformative.
    
        Encourages Polarization
    
            By appearing open while remaining rigid, thinkers like Peterson contribute to an intellectual landscape where ideological battle lines are drawn more firmly, rather than softened by genuine engagement.
    
    
      

    Conclusion: The Responsibility of Public Intellectuals

    Jordan B. Peterson is an undeniably influential thinker, and his emphasis on responsibility, order, and meaning resonates with many. However, his method of open-minded closed-mindedness serves as a cautionary tale. It demonstrates the power of intellectual posturing—how one can appear receptive while maintaining deep ideological resistance.

    For true intellectual growth, one must be willing not only to entertain opposing views but to risk being changed by them. Without that willingness, even the most articulate and thoughtful engagement remains, at its core, a well-defended fortress.

    So like I said, pure, evil AI slop, is evil, addictive and must be banned and lock up illegal gpu abusers and keep a gpu owners registry and keep track on those who would use them to abuse the shining light of our society, and who try to snuff them out like a bad level of luigi's mansion

  • The correct framework for evaluation is "if we kowtow and associate with nazis we might get our people luigi'd randomly"

  • The problem is yt premium is not able to sustain google's platform. Only google's synergic monopolies make youtube possible and alternative financially unviable. Youtube, very literally, must die. As long as youtube exists it will maintain critical mass and kill everything else judt by existing. To fund youtube is to reinfotce this entrenchment. Both paying or watching ads and arguably just watching it, empowers google momooly position and its capture of the zeitgeist.

  • I think he means native sponsored segment when you're the first person to watch with sponsor blocks. But that's mostly only videos realeased under 5 minutes ago.

  • I'm using newpipe but the anybility to find content with youtubr's content discovery algorithm or a locally running one makes for a lot yif very annoying tab switching and scrolling to the bottom of newpipe thousand item playlist. I'm going to try this rvx!

  • Spinal catastrophe fucked up the being alive meta on this planet. Everything is spinal now. So unoriginal

  • My seedbox is locked and load, please point me to the. Torrent in need. Archive team assemble!

  • Oignon, oignon powder, water, bread, shredded cheese, cook until cooked

  • Answer, you're using it wrong /stevejobs

  • A normal person would say 'strawberry with two "r"s'

  • Yes, nobody asking that question is wonderring about the "straw" part of the word. They're asking, is the "berry" part one, or two "r"s

  • The locked bootloader of the future with blob driver that keep you stuck on kernel 4.16 forever?

    Just how much of a regression will this future bring? Yes, I am very bitter to have discovered my phone is not rootable, if that's the future tgen fuck the future.

  • Yes, come play outside, Elon, come play with, me, he, he, he

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  • 10s of millions if twitter refugees and how many came here?

    It could very well be another decade before these people are sold out again.

  • Oops no such thing as a neutral state structure, thank you come again

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  • Time for the fediverse to reflect on this lamentable failure to capture the zeitgeist. The future could have been glorious. Instead we have infighting, defederation, owner class privilege with their delegates (moderators) as the first class citizen. And of course, hiding the structures of power has already begun in the name of harmony, so no, you can't have frictionless account migration. Don't step out of line if you don't want to lose your fediverse relationships and history...

  • It's carrier unlocked, but not bootloader unlocked, which what is needed for admin level access and removing the bloat

  • Carrier unlock and bootloader unlock are very different things. All my 60x motorola Z phones can use any carrier Well, they could if I hadn't replaced the antenna with a dummy resistor but that's beside the point. The point is I cannot have administrative access to my phone and that means I cannot change something I really really need to change on them to make them useful for my purpose.

    Essentially, I cannot "sudo" on these phones and that's making them very difficult to use.

  • I can neither deny or confirm whether I am based

  • No, they will give me root access to the devices that I own. Or they will cease operations on this planet.