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imaqtpie

@ imaqtpie @sh.itjust.works

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  • Anyone getting suspicious of the divisiveness and anti-American circle jerk on Lemmy?

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  • I agree wholeheartedly. My assumption was that such behavior was simply a symptom of the relatively larger proportion of Europeans on this site, and their obvious jealousy and insecurity regarding Americans. I still believe that is the most likely explanation. To be clear, America has done hella dumb shit lately, and is deserving of criticism on many fronts. But what OP is referring to goes beyond that. It's emotional animosity that overflows the bounds of reasonable criticism and targets individuals rather than governmental decisions or policies.

    The number of times that I have seen people refer to the American contribution to WWII as cowardice, meaningless, etc, is too damn high. 400,000 Americans died in that war. Read a fucking history book you ignorant, insensitive fucks.

    It's certainly possible that there are agents in our midst sowing divisiveness, although unlikely. I don't have any beef with any nationality, because I don't judge people based on where they were born. That should be common sense, but it's apparently difficult for some people to wrap their heads around.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • Usually the user numbers will start off really strong when a community is initially founded (especially if its a transplantation) and then drop off significantly in the following months. There's typically a surge of posts which attracts users from /all and /new, but those users eventually filter out as the content slows down.

    Yeah I mean that's more or less what I assumed, not really major enough for me.

    the people posting are free to go to another community whenever they want, and when they leave, the old community usually dies.

    You're not wrong and this has happened many times, also with c/anime leaving from lemmy.ml. But that doesn't mean things will always go that way. The posters have a lot of power sure, but the casual users also have a lot more influence than you might think. Most people aren't going to follow power posters to the ends of the earth, they'll simply engage with the content that is most readily available to them, and they really don't want to bother with splinter communities and moderation drama.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • Damn, they really only have 200 weekly users? I knew they were small but I thought it would be at least a couple thousand. Federation is absolutely key, couldn't agree more.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • They used to have 915 users for the last 6 months on the old one, they just reached 937 for this month on the new one, so I guess most of the people interested moved.

    !remindme to check their activity numbers 6 months from now and see how they compare. Hopefully it will be higher but I wouldn't bet on it.

    you can just announce that you are going to move, point to the new community, and then post the new content on the new community.

    That's the friction point. Most people aren't as active as you are and tend to miss those kinds of announcements. Or they see an announcement and they scroll right past. That's where you lose 90% of subscribers.

    I wasn't subscribed to the dbzer0 meme community, and I don't expect it to replace the original one. Without knowing anything about what went down, I think y'all should just keep posting in the original community. But I will reluctantly subscribe for the time being, only because I greatly enjoy my LOTR memes and I don't want to miss any good ones.

    I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that it's very disruptive and should only be done as a last resort, because many Lemmy communities are fragile as is, and we don't have enough activity to fill the communities that already exist. Trying to break off communities and replace communities is a dangerous game, and shouldn't be encouraged to solve minor problems, but only for major, unavoidable problems. People are going to do what they want no matter what I say, but that's my advice.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • The difficulty corresponds to the size and activity of the community. With all due respect, that's an extremely small community, and they've still only gotten to around 20% of their original subscriber base. For more active communities, rebuilding the subscribers will be even more difficult. Luckily for us, most communities on Lemmy are relatively small, so transplantation can definitely be done for many of them.

    However, when it comes to major communities, rebuilding the subscribers still isn't enough, because you lose all of the post and comment history no matter what you do. Major communities (c/memes, c/greentext, c/news, even something like c/eurographicnovels) cannot be quickly rebuilt in such a manner, you inevitably have to start from scratch. They represent the combined effort and activity of many people over many months, in making quality posts, making quality comments, and upvoting and downvoting the content judiciously so that the cream rises to the top. You could recreate them and try to copy all the posts to the new community with a bot in a single day, but that would be a pale imitation of the actual community as it existed over a period of time, because everything would have 0 upvotes and 0 engagement.

    Thanks for the reminder to resubscribe to the new c/sideoftheroad though.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • What do you mean by easy export? I haven't been keeping up with recent Lemmy updates because SJW is still running 0.19.5.

    But if that's some way to transfer your account to another server, that helps a little bit, but the more difficult thing is to migrate the communities to a new server. AFAIK you would have to start the communities from scratch with 0 posts and 0 subscribers, and that takes a long time to build back up.

  • What's the best general-interest Lemmy instance?

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  • But if the fediverse isn't actually distributed, then you don't actually have the option, right? If 80% of activity is on one server, then that server effectively controls the fediverse, and if you have a problem with their admins or moderators, you don't have a viable alternative.

    If it's not actually distributed, the fact that it theoretically could be doesn't really matter. And this isn't even mentioning the possibility of a centralized server having technical or legal issues.

    The divorce analogy is not a good one because that's an individual decision, whereas migrating servers and communities is not something that one individual person can just suddenly choose to do. It requires time, effort, and collective action, so it's better to be pre-emptively distributed to eliminate that vulnerability in the first place.

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    How are mods like this still allowed to "moderate" and run communities here?

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  • Any user can easily see that comments have been removed, it says removed by mod, and you can also see that they weren't downvoted heavily before removal. There's no shadowbanning or anything like that on Lemmy, it's right there for everyone to see.

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    How are mods like this still allowed to "moderate" and run communities here?

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  • Potential Decentralized Fediverse Alternative to Ko-fi, Patreon, etc.?

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  • Hexbear had been around for like 3 years before lemmy.world was even created, that's why they have such high activity numbers. Most of that activity is reactionary memes and rants about the media topic of the week, and hence largely meaningless and irrelevant content several years later.

    My server is defederated from hexbear as well, because they tend to disrupt discussions with their aggressive, cultlike behavior. I wanted to like them, but they quickly wore out my optimistic goodwill with their puerile immaturity and unearned self-righteousness.

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  • Sure, but in the context of this discussion I'm responding to someone claiming that Lemmy has more censorship than Reddit. That perception is completely false and detrimental to the growth of Lemmy, which is why I'm trying to clarify the truth of the matter.

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  • I mean... I'm not so sure about that logic. Technically you aren't wrong, but I think your point is misleading. In order for censorship to be problematic, it needs to be enforced by an entity with a significant amount of authority or control.

    A communist newsletter technically engages in "censorship" against conservative viewpoints, but that's hardly problematic, is it? Parents preventing young children from being exposed to objectionable content is technically "censorship".

    If you voluntarily choose to use a specific server when you have many other options at your fingertips, I just don't see how the colloquial usage of censorship applies to that situation. Seems like more of a semantic quibble than an actual flaw of Lemmy as a platform.

    Bottom line is that anyone can spin up a Lemmy server for free and post anything they want, and others can freely join or federate with that server and access that information without any barriers. That's why I would argue the platform does not have any inherent censorship.

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  • Lemmy as a platform has no censorship.

    Lemmy.world is one specific server among hundreds that has a little bit of censorship.

    It just happens to be the biggest as this moment in time, but that could easily change if they were actually censoring things to any significant extent. It never would have become the biggest in the first place if it were as censorship prone as you seem to believe.

    Encounter censorship on Lemmy > move to a different server

    Encounter censorship on reddit > nothing you can do

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  • Community fragmentation is a feature, not a bug. Your actual complaint isn't about censorship, but about the small size of the Lemmy userbase. If the userbase was bigger, there would be more active server options, and the moderation of each individual server (such as lemmy.world) wouldn't matter as much. Ironically, by ignorantly claiming that Lemmy has a problem with censorship, you're actively working against attempts to grow the userbase.

    Not to mention, if your biggest complaint of censorship is that lemmy.world bans discussion of vegan cat food, let me play the world's smallest violin for you

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  • Instead of having one giant jerk censoring things like on Reddit, there are instead dozens of little petty ones wanting to defederate from other instances.

    This false equivalency pains me to my core. I don't really have anything to say about the rest of your comment, but ffs can people stop with this nonsense take? You're implying that the difference between centralized corporate authoritarianism and decentralized grassroots democracy is negligible.

    Lemmy is free and collaborative, reddit is censored and exploitative. The fact that people consistently try to equate two opposite paradigms is just mind-boggling to me.

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    I'm leaving Lemmy

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  • Any particular reason?

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    What is the difference between lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works?

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  • Basically we were in the process of having a discussion about defederating them, and then they blocked us before we could have a vote in c/Agora.

    So it seemed like the problem was solved. But the fact that they don't appear on our blocklist has been misleading to others, so I think it's better to make it official.

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    What is the difference between lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works?

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  • For the record, I just added hexbear to the sjw blocklist.

    They use an allowlist and they previously removed us from it, so we were effectively defederated already for most of the past year. But it seems that they may have refederated with us silently within the past couple weeks. I'm not exactly sure.

    Anyway, I've heard this rumor about us still being federated with hexbear a few times, so I decided to clarify the situation.

    @Addition@sh.itjust.works

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    What is the difference between lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works?

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  • You'll have to message the community mods for clarification. They're the ones who created and maintain the community, so they get to decide who gets banned and why.

    Getting banned for a comment in another community is certainly possible, depending on what you said. I don't necessarily agree with that moderation style and it doesn't represent most communities on SJW, but that particular community tends to attract some heavy trolling, so I can understand if they're a bit trigger-happy on the ban hammer.

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  • I just looked at your modlog history and it could be for multiple reasons. You have used some offensive language in the past. That probably has something to do with it.