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they/them

  • Ew

  • What paywall‽

  • React.

  • (laughs in void)

  • Myanmar be cutting off its nose to spite its face.

  • Rule-wise, this seems fair.

    Regardless, if AI usage continues to increase in this manner, I'll likely be driving NetBSD, AROS, and FreeDOS by the end of the decade.

    Maybe even a little TempleOS or ZealOS, for flavour.

  • Well, yes; after all, I have been able to modify even proprietary software to fit my own preferences; but it's clear (and also explicitly stated) that it's supposed to be used mostly as-it-comes.

    I can't say I've tried Niri or PaperWM before, but if they're based on GNOME then maybe I'm being a little harsh.

    Thanks for the complements!

  • Fixed

  • Obviously check out Eylenburg's page and the ArchWiki, but here are my two cents on a bunch of DEs:

    Note: The weight of a DE is comparitive. "Heavy" DEs (such as GNOME) can still be swift on lower spec machines.

    GNOME

    • Based on Shell Toolkit and GTK4 (with libadwaita)
    • Wayland only
    • Heavy
    • Slightly similar to macOS' UI/UX, but really in a class of its own
    • Not particularly customisable Can be customised heavily, but the settings aren't exposed and the devs don't like it much.

    KDE Plasma

    • Based on Qt6 and QML (with its own frameworks)
    • Wayland only (usually)
    • Heavy
    • Has a lot of dependencies
    • Very Windows-y out of the box; but can easily be modified to replicate any other UI/UX

    KDE Liquid

    • Based on QtQuick
    • X11 only (as far as I know)
    • Midweight
    • No fancy effects
    • Not usually packaged, but available on Arch
    • Basically just KDE Plasma, but using a slightly different widget toolkit

    Xfce

    • Based on GTK2/3 (originally XForms)
    • X11 by default, but everything except Xfwm supports Wayland (Xfwl is almost done)
    • Light
    • Generally looks like itself, but some Linux distros have it looking more like Windows

    LXQt

    • Based on Qt5/6
    • X11 by default, but you can switch Openbox for KWin or LabWC in the settings
    • Light
    • The result of LXDE and Razor-qt merging
    • Layout is similar to older versions of Windows, but this can be changed

    LXDE

    • Based on GTK2 (I believe a GTK3 port may exist)
    • X11 only
    • Very light

    MATE

    • Based on GTK2
    • X11 only, but it's almost Wayland-ready
    • Midweight
    • Comparable to Xfce
    • Unique 2-bar layout, but can be transformed
    • A fork of GNOME 2

    Cinnamon

    • Based on GTK3/4 (with XApp frameworks)
    • X11 by default, with experimental Wayland support
    • Midweight
    • Windows-esque layout
    • Created as a spiritual successor to GNOME 2
    • Forked from GNOME 3

    Budgie

    • Based on GTK3/4
    • Wayland only
    • Midweight
    • Unique layout
    • Also created as a spiritual successor to GNOME 2

    deepin

    • I know basically nothing about this other than the fact it's Chinese
    • Looks pretty

    Trinity

    • Based on TQt3
    • X11 only
    • Lightweight (these days)
    • Similar layout to Windows; actually an old KDE layout
    • Forked from KDE 3
    • Maintains its own forks of Qt (called TQt), KHTML, and the KDE applications
    • Still works with older themes and software, such as QtCurve (which is nice)

    Enlightenment

    • Based on EFL
    • X11 by default, with experimental Wayland support
    • Lightweight, despite fancy effects and animations
    • Often considered a WM, rather than a DE, but it has its own suite of applications so it's a DE
    • Unique layout

    COSMIC

    • Based on iced
    • Wayland by default
    • Unsure of weight
    • Maintained by System76 (the Pop!_OS people)
    • Layout similar to GNOME
    • Still quite new

    Lumina

    • Based on Qt5
    • X11 by default
    • Quite popular among FreeBSD users

    Pantheon

    • Based on GTK3/4 and Granite
    • Wayland by default (soon to be Wayland-only)
    • Midweight
    • Akin to macOS
    • Used in elementary OS

    CDE

    • Based on Motif
    • X11 only
    • Lightweight
    • Ancient software, used in many Unices (e.g. AIX, Solaris, Tru64, etc.) and other OSes (e.g. VMS) back in the day

    FVWM-Crystal

    • Not based on any particular toolkit (a fair bit of raw XCB/Xlib, I imagine)
    • X11 only
    • Very lightweight
    • Quite old, so your mileage may vary when using it with newer software
    • Integrates with several music players, including Audacious and Quod Libet
    • Arguably more of a shell for FVWM
  • Slackware, Gentoo, the Mandriva family (OpenMandriva, Mageia, PCLinuxOS, ROSA, ALT Linux), Void, Alpine, Chimera, Venom, CRUX, Exherbo, Paldo, the PiSi family (PiSi Linux, old versions of Pardus), and Solus (eopkg is a fork of PiSi).

  • Ohh, Easter. Not sure how I didn't join the dots there.

  • What makes today the Day of Brian?

  • Can't believe we got tyrannosaur-skin handbags before GTA VI.

  • TIL Sir Paul McCartney is on Reddit.