Check my reviews out at !mediareviews@lemm.ee or !mediareviews@lemmy.world.I'm slowly starting to post on the .ee one...
Also @gon@lemmy.world and @gon@lemmy.pt.
And this is BuggieBot’s comment:
Yeah I was referencing that comment.
Sequence of events:
- PR trying to change pronouns.
- Automated response citing policy.
- Author takes note of it for blog post.
- PR fixed and merged.
- Blog post published.
Precocious, certainly, and I agree it was misguided. The blog post was indeed emotionally motivated, that's more than clear.
Sorry to beat a dead horse here
It's alright. I think these discussions need to be had.
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if you actually talk to one and ask them what they want
Doubt I'll ever get the opportunity, but I'll take it if it presents itself.
They’re uneducated, they’re seeing things aren’t good and rightfully so, but they’re tricked into scapegoating before coming to the right conclusions.
Fuck...
Sigh, you do have a point.
Maybe this was by a different reviewer, idk.
It was. Some other member of SerenityOS, not the person behind Ladybird (awesomekling).
blog author should be more accurate (see above)
That's fair. I'll say though, the blog post is dated from 1 day after the PR was actually merged. It's not unreasonable to think that, when they wrote it, it really hadn't been merged and they only saw the initial denial citing the policy.
He may be. Idk.
Yeah, I was just trying to say that that wasn't the point of my rant. I get it I get it.
I would’ve rejected the PR too, but not for violation of that rule, but because one-line changes that merely fix a comment waste everyone’s time reviewing it, and are often just to build someone’s resume.
That's exactly what I was talking about. You're taking what they said reasonably, because you're probably a reasonable person! However, look at what they're actually saying. The issue wasn't framed as being a "drive-by," though later that's what they claimed. It was about ideology. It was about politics. They didn't pull up rules about one-line changes to justify not accepting them, they pulled up rules about talking politics.
The problem wasn't that it was a meaningless PR, the problem was that it was a meaningful PR that they disagreed with.
And, quite frankly, disagreeing with that does make you an asshole, at the very least, and a transphobic misogynist, at worst. There were at least a few PRs open about similar issues, too.
Look, I'm not calling him a transphobe or a misogynist; I'm just saying this was an asshole thing to do, and it was done in an asshole way, and that allowing this sort of thing to exist, especially in FOSS, is not good. That's all.
Check this out: https://mkultra.monster/tech/2024/07/03/serenityos-and-ladybird
That blog post is pretty ridiculous, IMO.
You'll see the alt-right do that a lot, for some reason.
There's real criticism, but they always mix it in with some made-up complaints like the slavery thing, which is some of the most obvious sarcasm I have ever seen on the internet, but somehow taken literally by the author of the post.
IDK if he's a transphobe or whatnot, but his reaction to the change in language was indicative of, at the very least---with the most charitable of interpretations---, a disregard for inclusive language and, more realistically, some philosophy that doesn't allow for "others" to participate because the existence of those that aren't male is "political," somehow.
You might not see it, because you haven't seen it enough times to recognize it, but it happens again and again and again... But it's always quiet.
"Don't make this political," "ideology isn't welcome," stuff like that. Statements that sound reasonable, but are only wielded to quiet those aiming for inclusiveness and acceptance of marginalized people.
It might sound like a less-than-generous interpretation, a bit callous and over-zealous, but it's just patterns. I hear wolf, I say wolf.
Also, I thought that article had a really funny passage:
One activist ("cafkafk") seen below, within the GitHub repository for the developer being attacked, celebrating the fact that other activists -- organized on "The Fediverse" -- had arrived to harass the Ladybird developer.
This alone made me think that it might be satire, but I don't think it is... The Fediverse, huh? OK.
Thank you for sharing.
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MAGA, those voting for a privatizing fascist cutting taxes for the rich working with the richest people in the world to further the goals of the owner-class, are looking around going "wtf, workers need to seize the means of production?" Are you sure?
I can't tell if you're joking...
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I've heard this before, but I had no idea it came from the Hitchhiker's Guide... Cool :D
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"Centrist" is often a word for unscrupulous fence-sitter... It's a shame you've experienced that. I despise self-proclaimed centrists as much as the next guy.
Do you think they are the majority, though? Maybe it's my echo-chambers, but that doesn't feel like it's the case. I'm not American, mind you.
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That's not a very generous interpretation of people... Though I can't exactly contradict you.
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I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don't feel the need to dominate others.
Evil isn't "winning" as much as it is "on top." If you look around, talk to your neighbours and such, you'll see that good and reasonable people are everywhere; good is the overwhelming majority.
That being said, positions of power are chased and coveted by those obsessed with power, and those aren't good people. Good people need to take charge, but it's --- in a way --- against their nature to do so.
Ah ha, a fellow crawler! The game's still going and getting updated!
My gut reaction was to reject what you said, but the more I think about it... You might have a point.
I don't know. I don't want to say too much and regret it, but you did give me plenty to think about. Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.
a “join custom server” button could be added!
100%!
Sure, but phpBB boards are separate entities, not parts of a whole... So that's not really a 1 to 1 comparison, IMO.
That being said, you're right. If people started sharing instances directly instead of just saying "Mastodon," this issue would be attenuated, at the very least.
The issue is that people want the social part of social media. If you share mastodon.social, people will think "Mastodon," but if you share indieweb.social people will be confused, and possible disinterested because they don't necessarily expect to be connected to the other "Mastodons." At the end of the day, you'll always have to say it's a "Mastodon Server," and as soon as that gets brought up, I'm afraid it might push people away before they even get a foot in.
Then again, that's kind of how Discord gets shared around, so maybe that's OK, IDK.
Lemmy is better for on-boarding on this front as they have the Local and All feeds from the start. Just having that front and centre (defaulting to Local, as you don’t want to overwhelm them) would be a big help.
Yup, Lemmy does it really well.
So how about 2 big points: auto-selector (based on location) and answer a couple of questions.
I think that's totally fine. The big point is that the user shouldn't choose a server. Answer a few questions that can lead to a server? OK. But as soon as you make someone choose you might be reintroducing that confusion that seems to not be very popular with normies.
While I’d be fine with an auto-selector (as I help Admin feddit.uk), it would miss out on the variety of instances out there - books, games (video, tabletop, etc), franchises, etc that some people might be looking for.
Here, I'll point to this thread by Ted Curran: https://indieweb.social/@tedcurran/113946323075198755
Also, this reply thread https://lemm.ee/comment/18473212
Ted talks about how it might be best to simply send people to one instance (a sort of starter instance) and then encourage them to move to a different, more specific one. Other users complain that account migration is insufficient.
Maybe, after improving account migration, we should send users to a few semi-random starter instances that have agreed to a certain set of rules and adhere to a set of quality standards, but then encourage them to leave by migrating their account to an instance that better matches their interests.
From what I've gathered with the replies I've been getting, this might actually be the best solution, for now. Though, of course, it does include a significant improvement over the tech side, rather than relatively simple UI changes...
My understanding is, in the early days, you could send an SMS to Twitter to post, and that is the origin of character limits.
OH! Had no idea!
Well, maybe they'll remove it if the community pushes for it.
Longevity.
100% percent! This needs to be taken into account.
Migration.
I definitely think account migration should be improved, but I wonder how feasible that is, in a technical sense... I don't know how that sort of data is structured at all.
Federation/Defederation
That's a good point. Once again, I really don't know of a solution to this. I'm not too familiar with how federation works, in a technical sense. Servers should definitely make their blocked servers and whatnot public by default, though.
Privacy
Of course, it's impossible to make sure that every single server is safe. My point was that, if everyone is in the same server, then the risk of something going bad for any number of people increases, versus if everyone is in a bunch of different servers. I guess it's a balance between the trustworthiness of many people with control over a few and the trustworthiness of a few people with control over many. Maybe it's not so relevant. Most people don't care about privacy anyway, I was just trying to make a point about why decentralization should be valued in a practical sense.
Yeah, there's a lot of things that still need to be improved!
Quite frankly, I never understood the point of character limits to begin with. I mean, sure, don't let people post literal novels on your short-form social media platform, but it being a short-form social media platform already conditions people not to post novels...
Yeah. I see astro_ray in the thread has already replied to that point... It's ridiculous!
Suspiciously close to what Hitler would say... /s