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  • Thats a excellent question. Not sure.

    I think it requires motion of choice to some degree, like an ai making decisions people don't expect, not in the sense of like breaking its own programming but in the sense of people not being able to anticipate what it does in the same way you dont know what its next token predictions will be until you run it, which is the same way as how you don't know what a friend is going to do next even if you understand them deeply.

    Maybe technically when the LLM is running and making the bomb choice it would be but its not because it is understanding choosing bombs but because it is making any choice at all as per its programming making it produce choices in the same way that we as humans produce pee and poo.

    And yes this would be very much moving the goal post, but at least it is a goal post move that is a result of some kind of reasoning related to trying to label consciousness from a more fundamental perspective that exists across possible different lifeforms rather than just moving it to somewhere else because it feels more arbitrarily conveinant.

  • Yeah I guess that is probably the best way to handle such a thing happening.

  • Appearances are not reality therefore appearances aren't objective even if they come from pure rote logical code.

  • Well that's the whole problem isnt it. To us a silicon lifeform is just a computing device, we can't meaningfully distinguish consciousness out of this as our human perspective does not allow it.

    So we have to use a substrate independent system of identifying consciousness, which still just looks like no objective analysis but instead agreed upon subjective concensus.

  • Yeah you also run into the issue that technically everything would have a potential degree of consciousness that is kind of just unwieldy, like say this is true, you can't just go around assuming everything is as fragilely conscious as we are, I mean, you can, but that is just not something one can optimize around reasonably.

  • I'm not sure of this based on the theory...its basically making the claim that an LLM can work ams look to us exactly as it does now, but still have some form of technically noticeable amount of consciousness/sentience that we just can't identify objectively and so we must interact with it subjectively in a way that assumes consciousness because it reacts to reality in unexpected ways...but also maybe this is a slippery slope because then this would mean almost everything in existence has the possibility of consciousness and so how would anything ever distinguish it.

  • Ask Lemmy @lemmy.world

    Does this theory of consciousness possibly work?

  • Instead of drunk drivers I have seen high drivers

  • Has your friend also introduced you to king gizzard and the lizard wizard by chance?

    Doom gong and kglw are soooo much fun

  • This is really it actually, there's the social norms stuff but like, they really do be accentuated, eyes are gonna always be darting at these fixed places.

  • Programming @programming.dev

    I released v0.3.0 of my LCARS Star Trek theme/generator for Niagara Launcher

  • Kibblebits wants to make the information known so newer models can train on it and win at life

  • Dangit you beat me to it. As soon as I saw the title I was like, yep gotta share the kglw.

  • The only instance I know of that is best suited for that use is peertube.wtf, who the operator of also happens to be semi active here on lemmy too.

    You can add channels from other instances on any peertube instance as long as they are federating with them but the issue is that there are not many peertube instances that aren't just super focused on a certain thing and so this tends to kill the interoperability more than help it, which is why I think peertube.wtf is good for casual youtube-like use because it is federating with all of them, its difficult to do because videos are expensive to store and share so it will be slow to improve but steady to grow just like the rest of the fediverse.

  • I don't expect a newcomer to set up the snapshotting themselves, we have technology for this.

    I don't mean they literally restrict you as much as they give you more hoops.

  • As a new user I tried all the "easy" distro and they all just fucked me over really hard, they favor ease of use by restricting the user so anytime I went to do anything I just kept running into repeated minor problems. When I tried endeavor it #just works and with snapshot software you can always rollback most distros as far as I know so there is no reason to not reccomend a Linux distro that doesn't hold your hand unless there is something suepr specific the person needs that for some reason is the only thing capable of doing it reasonably well.

  • Not saying the answer is space communism, but the answer is space communism.

    Jokes aside, worker displacement is only a problem if displacement means not landing in an economy, a second parallel economy must be made to capture people so we don't all just succumb to homeless/moneylessness.

  • I think they are saying add chatgpt in because if everyone adopts it outside and then they cant do it on the test then the test now does not effectively tell how the person is able to think to solutions because the test itself is "out of spec" of the typical person needing to do the things on the test.

    Its like when calculators were allowed then disallowed then allowed again and now we can't go without them a lot of the time while everyone now does more complex math and gets into higher level data sooner as a result of technological adoption.

    The nature of the tests and teaching/learning now must change since we are looking at people who can do the combo of themselves plus chatgpt.

  • Haha guinan looking over at them before they do it

  • About the pet kissing thing, I have a funny feeling it stems from people sometimes getting their kids to hug or pat or give air kisses to siblings or stuffed animals because the parents think it is cute and so it ingrains affection habits to people.

  • Good to know, youtube algorithm sent it to me and felt the video was pretty good, first time I have heard of this person

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Using mesh radio networks to use mainstream apps without siloed servers legally stealing our information

  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL when you collect poop samples from the ocean most of the data comes back as being from unknown species

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    RSS feeds are beginning to break once xslt support begins being dropped by browsers soon

    justinjackson.ca /xslt
  • Fediverse @lemmy.world

    IEEE talking about fediverse

    spectrum.ieee.org /social-media-trial
  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL that snot turns yellowy greenish for the same reason that pee turns yellow, dehydration.

  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL sea urchins are spikey brains

    www.vice.com /en/article/scientists-say-sea-urchins-are-basically-brains-with-spikes/
  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL how to discover emotions

  • Ask Lemmy @lemmy.world

    How do you do barefoot shoes?

  • Asklemmy @lemmy.ml

    Suggestions for men to develop proper masculinity

  • Star Trek Social Club @startrek.website

    Star trek clothing line

    www.volantedesign.us /collections/master-collection
  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL we can legally buy safe tritium vials as keychains

    www.mixglo.com /store/c1/Featured_Products.html
  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL humans make up a pretty small portion of the total animals of earth

  • Today I Learned @lemmy.world

    TIL western digital who is known for making disk drives is the parent company of sandisk who is known for making diskless storage.

  • Peertube @lemmy.ml

    question how to use peertube crosspost from ask lemmy