Skip Navigation

InitialsDiceBearhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearhttps://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/„Initials” (https://github.com/dicebear/dicebear) by „DiceBear”, licensed under „CC0 1.0” (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)C
Posts
4
Comments
597
Joined
3 yr. ago

i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

  • The meat and dairy industries have lobbied hard for ag-gag laws criminalizing photography on their farms after abuses have been discovered by undercover investigators and activists.

    and that's bad

    but it's still not necessary to kick cattle for milk

  • Female mammals, including cows, produce milk as a result of pregnancy in order to feed their young.

    they don't have any volition in the matter. they produce milk. period. but they're not constantly pregnant.

  • Doing so to a creature who can't consent is pretty wack though

    it's a veterinary procedure

  • artificial insemination isn't torture. cows aren't kept constantly pregnant. kicking and beating cows isn't part of husbandry. killing cows at the end of their useful life is fine.

  • nature doesn't have intent

  • milking cows isn't torture, but I'm pretty sure humans have a bigger carbon footprint than cattle

  • <img src="under_construction.gif" />

  • it's true to say that you're wrong.

  • wrong

  • maybe you're an enabler. I'm not.

  • poore-nemecek can't be trusted to be the basis of my dietary decisions. it probably can't even be trusted to have understood it's own source data.

  • We could guillotine all of the CEOs, and revoke every corporate charter, but it'd do jack for the environment, unless unless we also all change our lifestyle.

    without those companies, the lifestyles would necessarily change.

  • novel

  • It should also be noted that soy cake is human-edible

    and it is eaten by humans, but not in the quantities it is produced due to soy ean oil production.

  • a soybean is only about 20% oil, but oil makes up almost half the soy beans value

    it's produced in an oil press

    soy cake is the byproduct of soybean oil production, and if we didn't feed it to livestock, it would be industrial waste

  • This is true on small scale subsistence farms, but it breaks down when scaled up to the amount of meat consumption in typical developed nations

    I'm afraid you're misinformed.

    soy cake is a byproduct of soybean oil production. it's about 90% of the soy we feed to animals globally. that's one of the biggest ones, but you'll find this repeated across the industry: corn cobs and corn stalks used in fodder, crop seconds like onions and tomatoes fed to livestock etc.

  • we feed them parts of plants we can't or don't want to eat. they help us conserve those resources.

  • industrial waste, crop seconds, and grazed grass, mostly