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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

  • There has been trade between human civilizations long before we began domesticating animals.

    oh?

  • everything I've said is true. you're objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.

  • I've been sober all day.

  • milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.

  • no. I'm trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law: they are populated by irrational actors.

  • if we stop drinking milk, and it continues to be produced, the environmental impacts will not cease. if we stop production, it will.

  • how can you prove that?

  • those are impacts from production. once it's produced, drinking it has no impact at all.

    but I would be remiss if I didn't point out that your link relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which ignores the fact that LCA studies cannot be combined. it's bad science.

  • why are you trying to destroy an ethnic minority's cultural foods?

  • any predator would eat the mammaries of a pregnant or nursing prey animal

  • drinking milk has no impact on the environment

  • consent is not mentioned in the vegan society definition.

  • until we live in a society where being pregnant and giving birth does not endanger your health, security, and social status, prohibiting abortion simply can't be an option.

  • no one is killing anyone for meat

  • can you substantiate this?

  • both are easy to justify. humans share (food, culture, stories, songs, tools, etc). piracy is natural. laws that prohibit it are immoral.

    as for eating meat, there is cost, convenience, and culture: for many people eschewing meat simply isn't reasonable given their circumstances.