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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

  • calling me names doesn't change the truth

  • Plants can’t think.

    you already showed why this claim can't be proven

  • you keep talking about things that have nothing to do with the veracity of what Ive said

  • it seems like you know that what I've been saying is true, but you just don't like that I'm right.

  • i have never said plants think or are conscious. I'm saying you can't prove they don't, and you helpfully explained why what I said is true.

  • so? that has nothing to do with whether plants can think

  • they're allowing that it still could be proven, but objecting to the theories they showed in this paper

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            > it does not prove plants aren't conscious
    
        Because a negative can't be proven.
      
  • plants can't think.

    you know this can't be proven

  • even if you are correct (which is not likely based on evidence), consuming plants instead of meat still reduces suffering. Eating plants directly is more efficient than eating animals that eat plants.

    this has nothing to do with what I e been saying at all, and I am correct, as you explained in your other comment

  • In conclusion, we feel we must speak forcefully: plant neurobiologists have become serial speculationists. The ratio of speculation to data in their oeuvre is astronomically high. If they want to form a sensible hypothesis and then test it with real experiments, that is fine, but the prolific speculating and fantasizing need to stop.

  • so you seem to understand that what I said is true

  • read that study. it does not prove plants aren't conscious. it casts doubt on the existing claims that they are.

    in the conclusion, they explicitly allow for the possibility that it may be proven that plants are conscious.

  • they are not conscious.

    you can't prove such a claim

  • I think they're in agreement here.

  • Republicans don't blame libertarians. they know that the people who want to vote for libertarians aren't Republicans. the same can't be said for Democrats. they believe they are owed every vote people choose to give to greens. it's entitled.

  • 3 bags of soylent

    gameboy-shaped candy tin, half full of nicotine pouches

    a wallet full of library cards

    little red songbook 1923 edition (used)

  • I guarantee user blocking is not bi-directional outside of piefed

  • thermite is a real diy compound. all you need is a file, some rusty iron and some aluminum. and the magnesium strip for the catalyst/fuse.

  • Technology @lemmy.world

    A look at Israel’s AI generated war on Gaza and the Western Governments and Tech Corporations who are invested in it.

    kolektiva.social /@subMedia/111936712809096949
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Training Generative AI Models on Copyrighted Works Is Fair Use - Change My Mind

    mastodon.lawprofs.org /@AnnemarieBridy/111807317689823857
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Mozilla.social sent out a slew of account invites to their waitlist

    mozilla.social /@commie/111585674250665326
  • Technology @lemmy.world

    Did youtube give in already?