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  • Ouch, that hurts.

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  • You're missing my point, and that of the person to whom I replied.

    Why are eggs in the dairy aisle of American supermarkets and commonly considered dairy products?

    Obviously eggs aren't made of milk.

  • As have i.

    Never seen that, I'll check it out!

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  • As another non vegan (AKA "carnist") I agree FWIW.

  • Time to rewatch The West Wing again.

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  • That sounds truthy.

  • And how did they get dusted with glitter?!

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  • I figured you would be!

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  • I was going to recommend you to the OP!

  • That seems reasonable.

    You could also theoretically have a system that confiscated a car once it has accumulated X points, no matter who was driving. I bet you'd be careful to whom you lend your car, and would teach your teens strictly!

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  • Yeah, I alluded to that in my original comment. I don't know if bleaching the shell is an issue other than for storage but it wouldn't surprise me.

    It is sad how much we've allowed Agribusiness to decide what we eat and how we live.

  • TIL. Thanks.

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  • Maybe before supermarkets, eggs and milk were the main items being refrigerated in the grocery store. Meat would have come from a butcher until the 50s or 60s, I think? (my back hurts, but not THAT much)

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  • I'm sure that's the case now, but I'm curious why it started. Is that not the case in non-western countries?

    I wouldn't think that there's anything about dairy cow ranching that specifically lends itself to also raising egg hens, but I'm no farmer!

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  • Is there no sense in which we can say, actually no: a culture in which slavery is okay is a flawed culture; it is better to have a culture that does not promote this sort of thing?

    I would certainly prefer that the arc of time bend towards people and the environment having more protection/freedom/rights than the other way around, but without an external directive I don't believe that it's meaningful to use labels like "correct" in this context. For your specific examples, I would rather say something like "Nazi Germany and the Confederacy were below the contemporaneous and current commonly-held threshold for human rights." That's a self-important mouthful, which I already regret typing out.

    Any evaluation of another culture is necessarily done through the lens of the evaluator's opinions and preferences, which are (by default) a product of their home culture. I hope I'm explaining my view clearly; I certainly am not arguing that those societies were not abominable places to live, led by awful people.

    This implies that certain cultures’ mores are more correct than others’, which probably feels right to you because those countries’ norms align more closely with yours.

    As a vegan, I don’t think is the case! I think our cultures norms around animals does not align closely what feels right to me at all.

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    For example there some Indigenous or Inuit cultures in rural Canada or Greenland that still partly live their traditional ways of life. I think those cultures are actually better than ours.

    I feel like these two statements are in contradiction? You state that some traditional cultures are better because they align with your beliefs, which was my argument. Again, I'm not saying that those cultures are NOT an improvement over my own in this particular regard, based on my own view of morality, just that my opinion on the subject is my own and not "The Correct Opinion".

    Again, I mean absolutely no disrespect and am just trying to stretch my smooth and rarely-used brain a bit. Feel free to simply ignore me.

  • You betcha!

  • That's true. Offense is always easier than defense.

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  • Certainly possible!

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  • I don't mean ethical in the sense of her choice being good or bad, but in that people intentionally choose to be vegan because of their ethical belief, as opposed to a cultural preference or a medical restriction.

    TBC, I'm not a vegan.