There might be a start with another Piefed instance (e.g. Piefed.zip, managed by Lemmy.zip admins). People who really don't want to use Lemmy would register on that instance, but would still be able to interact with the communities on Lemmy, the way Mbin and Piefed alreay do now. They start hosting a few communities onn Piefed.zip, locking other on lemmy.zip and redirecting people there.
Then over time some other admins want to give it a try. After a while a few Piefed instances make it to the top 10 most active instances, while the rest is Lemmy.
It doesn't have to happen overnight. We have time, people are not going anywhere.
Because those ads also provide revenue for the content creators. Content creators also need to be paid for their work.
Content creators get paid via Patreon. There are several channels who use that way to sustain themselves. Patreon is a donation-based model, not a subscription.
It’s not an attack
It is, especially with the bold emphasis on "You". You saying it's not doesn't deny that fact.
It’s pure hypocrisy. I don’t care whether you specifically sign up to Communick or not, but I do care about the fact that people do not understand basic economics and go around expecting that the Fediverse can succeed without paying the people that work to make it happen.
According to you. The day other admins will tell us that they can't make the projects live anymore without additional donations, we can discuss this again. In the meantime, there is no indication that your statement is correct.
Only those who are completely financially illiterate would fall for such a ridiculous proposition.
There is no free lunch, but in Facebook/Reddit/Twitter case they sell ads and user data to make money. And the vast majority of the population seems okay with that.
The point is that we got there by having professionals being paid to work on it.
Professionals who got paid because they were delivering a product or a service to companies.
Which company is going to pay to get more features or a professional version of Lemmy or Piefed?
Lemmy is for personal use, not corporate, and that's the main difference with Linux or Firefox. It is closer to something like https://gnucash.org/ than to a Linux distribution.
The GnuCash Project is a volunteer-driven organization, meaning it depends on volunteers such as you to survive and grow. This page explains different ways to contribute to the project.
You want the Fediverse to replace Twiter/Reddit/Facebook, so billions of users.
I want a Reddit alternative to reach 100k monthly active users. I don't need the Fediverse to be used by everyone, I just want a place to discuss with enough people.
If you can find a way to finance the Fediverse to pay full time jobs to admins, kudos to you. I just don't think that's realistic (we touch on that on another comment thread https://feddit.org/post/6620726/4078921 )
We built this whole place from scratch 18 months ago. We can do it again, especially when Lemmy instances would still be around and help to redirect people to the Piefed instances.
jointhefediverse.net - Why was Lemmy removed from the list of fediverse alternatives?
Hosting video is not the expensive part. It’s the distribution part that worries most people, but people forget that we have the technology to distribute large static files for decades already.
Then why isn't PeerTube more popular, especially with the amount of ads YouTube shows nowadays?
Your behavior is not determined by what “teenagers” will or will not do.
Why are you attacking me personally? Is it supposed to convince me to pay 29$/year for your service? If yes, sorry to say, but that's not very effective, and I will keep donating to other instances like lemmy.zip, feddit.org or sopuli.xyz
Why is that “every teenager” is fine with paying their phone bills, their Steam subscription, Spotify, Netflix, etc, etc… but not to pay for a service that is useful to them?
If tomorrow a phone operator would provide the same service for free everyone would go there and leave the existing providers alone.
Steam has no subscription, what do you mean?
Spotify and Netflix are usually used in a family bundle because their parents find it convenient. But with the rising prices of streaming services, I see more and more people cancelling them and pirating content.
But we didn’t get there overnight, and surely we did not get there on “community” alone.
Did we get there because every Linux user paid a subscription to use the operating system?
jointhefediverse.net - Why was Lemmy removed from the list of fediverse alternatives?
If their servers delete content you want deleted, yes.
It's the case for Lemmy
Unfortunately there was some miscommunication in this issue and we failed to get to the root cause. In fact the Lemmy backend has an option to delete all content when an account is deleted. This used to be the default behaviour but was changed in 0.19 so you need to set a parameter delete_content. We failed to add a checkbox for this parameter to lemmy-ui.
However the checkbox is added now in #2385 and will be included in the next Lemmy release. Other frontends and clients may also need to adjust the delete_account api call.
Unfortunately there was some miscommunication in this issue and we failed to get to the root cause. In fact the Lemmy backend has an option to delete all content when an account is deleted. This used to be the default behaviour but was changed in 0.19 so you need to set a parameter delete_content. We failed to add a checkbox for this parameter to lemmy-ui.
However the checkbox is added now in #2385 and will be included in the next Lemmy release. Other frontends and clients may also need to adjust the delete_account api call.
jointhefediverse.net - Why was Lemmy removed from the list of fediverse alternatives?
For user-picked communities, there is !newcommunities@lemmy.world